Originally Posted by rhaikh
"We should do nothing about this problem because it will go away on its own and talking about it is part of the problem and also there are other things to worry about"

ref. pg1 white fragility brochure

What do Nazis stand to gain if everyone who quote "didn't care either way" simply agreed that the statues should go away? If you really don't care, then why do you care enough to say we shouldn't oppose Nazis?


My entire broadside against your faction and thinking targeted the means, not the ends.

The "how" is important, and that is where you are failing.

Purported ends do not justify the means. If your approach to dealing with racism actually ends up creating more division, and providing safe haven for the racists, then shouldn't you rethink the tactics? This is a widespread problem with the larger left, where addressing real instances of racial injustice in a thoughtful manner have taken a back seat to finding ways to self-flagellate over white guilt and touting one's own supposed moral enlightenment.

Rhetorical questions like "what if everyone simply agreed to X" are reminiscent of hippy magical thinking "what if everyone just decided to make love not war, wouldn't the world suddenly be great". Sure, it would be, now lets deal with a reality that is drastically more complex.


For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)