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'Papa' John Schnatter's Obamacare

Another GOP CEO comes out with politically motivated threats. It will increase cost of doing business and impact bottom line! The same story again - providing health care and livable wage is bad for business. Taking care of your workers does not help maximize the revenue and CEO bonuses, especially in the service sector where training costs are minimal and no qualifications are needed. Maximize your profit! Move everyone to part time, offload costs of running your business to society, because you can.

Where did Henry Fords of business world went? If John Schnatter's of the world have their way, US won't have anyone able to afford his shitty greasy pizzas.


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Yep you got them, only GOP CEO's put profit for the shareholders on top of the list they are suppose to do.

All Democrat CEO's take all the profits and give out candy and unicorns to the employees.

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More Republican scum CEOs.

@Helemoto. Clearly, people do not deserve a livable wage for honest work, because there really shouldn't be an alternative to being on welfare or in the top 1%.


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Originally Posted By: sini
More Republican scum CEOs.

@Helemoto. Clearly, people do not deserve a livable wage for honest work, because there really shouldn't be an alternative to being on welfare or in the top 1%.

Opps... http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinge...shioned-stupid/

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The point is if we are having to depend on the local pizza shack to deliver those kinds of wages and benefits to people, it means we have already completely screwed up at the macro level.

Management/Supervisory positions always had (comparatively) decent wages and benefits. Rank and file positions used to be filled mostly by kids and young adults in school or still finding their way.

The whole idea that pizza shack owners should be Henry Fords just shows that the conception held by many about what the real issues are is completely off base.


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Originally Posted By: Derid

The point is if we are having to depend on the local pizza shack to deliver those kinds of wages and benefits to people, it means we have already completely screwed up at the macro level.

Management/Supervisory positions always had (comparatively) decent wages and benefits. Rank and file positions used to be filled mostly by kids and young adults in school or still finding their way.

The whole idea that pizza shack owners should be Henry Fords just shows that the conception held by many about what the real issues are is completely off base.

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Originally Posted By: sini
More Republican scum CEOs.

@Helemoto. Clearly, people do not deserve a livable wage for honest work, because there really shouldn't be an alternative to being on welfare or in the top 1%.



Why is it always one extreme or the other with you. Everyone is either dead broke or 1%.
I am now assuming you live in a cave somewhere that only has wifi and you have no need to
go into the real world.
Please explain how the world will work if every job is full time with full benifits and
everyone has the same pay that you seem so hell bent on making.

These CEOs are making the point that they do not pay the cost when government raises taxes on
them, the cost gets passed on to the consumer or employees.
Even companys run by the worlds greatest Democrat CEOs.

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Originally Posted By: Derid

The point is if we are having to depend on the local pizza shack to deliver those kinds of wages and benefits to people, it means we have already completely screwed up at the macro level.

Management/Supervisory positions always had (comparatively) decent wages and benefits. Rank and file positions used to be filled mostly by kids and young adults in school or still finding their way.

The whole idea that pizza shack owners should be Henry Fords just shows that the conception held by many about what the real issues are is completely off base.


No, you are dodging the fundamental argument - that is if you WORK you should be COMPENSATED so you can LIVE OFF FRUITS OF YOUR LABOR.

Not paying livable wage, so a family of 2 working adults could buy food, clothing, shelter and health care is ultimate passing responsibility on society at large. This is nothing but another way to deal out CORPORATE HANDOUTS by subsidizing wages with welfare outlays.


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2 working adults at pizza shack wages can already obtain that so your argument was a nonstarter. It does take 2, one alone cannot manage it - both adults have to work.

Also, do you really think every single job needs to pay a "livable wage"? Like I said, most pizza-shack level jobs are (or at least were, in my day) filled by kids and young adults. In other words, there are plenty of people in society that do not need a "livable wage" - and requiring every employer to provide one for every job will simply reduce the amount of jobs available to those who simply need to supplement their income, or have spending money.

Besides, if there is a shortage of work - and the supply of adults who need to make a livable wage is overly high to the point where the govt needs to intervene... look to the govt itself as the cause of this situation.

In the end, wages and labor need to respond to market forces. Using "fairness" as a pretext to distort this process will only end badly for all involved, including and especially the lower income people. If adult labor is so abundant that pizza shacks have no problems filling their positions with people willing to work for wages you do not consider livable, then that should tell us something. What it should tell us is not that pizza moguls are evil evil heartless people, but rather that we, as a society have so seriously dropped the ball that the only job many adults can obtain is a job in a pizza shack.

Instead of asking ourselves "how can we use govt violence to force pizza shack moguls to pay wages that are livable in my opinion"... the question we ought to be asking is "how did we arrive here in the first place, and how can we get out of it".

If I appeared to dodge your argument - it is because you are trying to deal with the wrong question.


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