Originally Posted by rhaikh
I don't see an inherent conflict in limiting financial campaign contributions (by individuals or corporations or whatever) and freedom of speech.


I recommend you look into arguments in Citizens United case - they successfully used argument that political donations is type of expression, limiting these would limit freedom of speech.

That goes back to definition of freedom of speech. Wouldn't you agree that freedom of speech is not possible unless it also includes expression of political opinions? Also wouldn't you agree that freedom of speech isn't limited to act of speaking, but rather to all types of transactional communications. That is, it isn't only act of speaking (after all we hardly said a word in this entire debate, we typed it). You could artificially exclude money, but then it still leaves offering services, press coverage, advertising, advocacy...

To definitively kill that argument you need to categorically dismiss the notion that freedom of speech applies to non-human entities. Dismiss doesn't mean forbid, it only means that it isn't protected in any way. Corporations are just proxies for collective action of group of people. In case of speech, each corporate stakeholder has his or her own ability to speak. The same goes for unions. Ideas don't require collective bargaining or pooling of resources to realize it, so there is no need to give imaginary entities actual rights like that.


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