Wow, where do I even begin with you guys.

Obviously we all believe what we believe, and we can all produce facts to support our statements. Since I am seriously out numbered here, and know for a fact that no matter what I produce it is not going to change any of your minds, nor will any of you be able to change mine.

I guess we wait and see what is going to happen.

I can tell you right now, and please quote me. There is no way that Ron Paul will be elected president under any circumstances. He just doesn't have the support to compete.

Some final thoughts:

1) I am not a socialist by any means.
2) Not sure where the Islam shit came in, but Ron Paul and I agree about the Afgan and Iraq wars. In Afghanistan, we should have kicked ass, and left. Stick and move. Not get in to Nation building. Someone said, "I didn't see Bush and Cheney getting rich". But Halliburton sure did. For anyone to defend the Iraq war at this point is just crazy. Bad intel, bad decisions, and a waste of lives and money.
3) As for GM, I am sure none of you complained when Reagan bailed out Chrysler the first time. I don't hear anyone calling Reagan a socialist. As for the Ford argument, Ford restructured all it's debt just before the great recession and got lucky. Read up on it.
4) As for the housing stuff. Ever tried to get a Mortgage? It is not as easy as everyone thinks. The banks did the lending, noone twisted their arms. I find it amazing that you defend these crooks.
5) I am pro-death penalty, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy from the right. Doesn't the bible say thou shall not kill? I am not religious (I believe in science and not the talking snake), but I love how the right cherry picks what commandments and verses to honor and which ones to ignore.
6) Finally science. How many republicans believe in evolution? How can anyone with a tiny bit of intellect cannot do the math when it comes to climate change?

Anything look fishy here? Yes these are from ice cores if you didn't know. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Do the math.

Again, I respectfully disagree on soooo many levels with you right wingers, and I guess we are going to have to see what happens.


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