Originally Posted By: Kaotic
What is wrong with this analogy? Please explain to me why this is childish. It is a nearly perfect analogy for capitalism vs. communism.

Because it´s too simplistic, and do not put in many variable involved, and you do not get rich yourself alone, it´s not your hardwork alone. Many of the great bilionaries of the USA in the past century achivied that with exploring hard work of people with bad work conditions, so their fortunes were not fruit of their hard work, it was product of bad regulations from government. Give an example here from Brazil the Barons of Coffe got rich by exploring slave work until almost 1900.. then with the pression from england and other countries the government freed the slaves, while instead of giving them jobs they preferead to import imigrant work from europe and japan to work in their plantations..

ps: I´m not communism(comunism is not the answer for our society) or like socialism, but I believe we must find a balance betwen capitalism and some services that some of you would consider socialism like universal health care system(not free).

The private plans are a big industries that moves billions of dollars per year, its a industry like the war industry, so there are big lobbies behind it, telling and spreading lies to that their dominance continue going on..

Originally Posted By: Kaotic

trying to associate as capitalism versus comunism..

Yes, in high school I had Political Science, Sociology, American History, and World History. I also had Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, and Calculus. Since then I've had three more history classes, a psychology class and two economics classes in college (never mind the chemistry, biology, physics and other courses). None of that includes the dozens of books I've read on these subjects and online research I do on a regular basis to stay informed. How is any of this pertinent to the debate? If you're trying to suggest that my viewpoints are molded by lack of education I'm afraid that dog won't hunt.


Not in any moment I tried to say that you were not educated, but somehow to us the general archetype of an highschool american is that hes not that bright, sometimes you(the american) cannot point out where is the Europe in tha map of the globe(at same type you have stereotypes of the other peoples countries), to us is pointed that you guys only know about yourselves and your way of life, so if you guys really had political sciency and studied a semester on that you have at least to read some parts of Karl Max creations, but that would be waste of time or heresy to US people.

And I know you are that have more arguments out of people here in KGB about your political view points.


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