Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Derid
Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Derid
As far as I know, noone is forcing people to work at gunpoint.


So you are advocating absolving personal responsibility and expansion of a welfare state? Shocking.


That is an.... extremely odd way to read that, to say the least.



So what is there other than welfare? I mean, you don't support people getting livable wage from working, you must support them getting welfare? Or are you suggesting they just live under the bridges and starve to death?


Entrepreneurship, finding better job, working multiple jobs, hitting up private charity of which there is plenty.

But like I said before, just about any wage is a livable wage - people just need to self organize into collectives to pool resources. Such as young people / people in school already typically do.

Your force employers to do X at gunpoint/else people are welfare recipients is a false dichotomy. You personally might not savor the idea of having 3 roomates, but that does not mean violence is the answer to ensure that noone ever has to do it.


For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)