You advocating market force while conveniently ignoring WHO is on other side of that competition (hint - not an open democratic societies that allow its citizens decent living) is nothing short of a farce.

"Many people don't need livable wage" is an absurd argument. You ether have government or parents paying "the rest", both are 'safety nets'.

With all this complaining about "big government" you don't seem to have the problem with handouts to businesses in form of complimenting wages with welfare, because they colluded to set wages below livable wage.

DO YOU or DO YOU NOT acknowledge that when Papa Jones pays minimum wage, no beni 30h/week "part time" wage to someone, who in turn have to get A) all taxes reimbursed B) welfare handouts from the government, then Papa Jones effectively passes his costs onto government, and us the taxpayers? Why should I pay, with my tax dollars, for Papa Jones labor costs?

Last edited by sini; 11/17/12 12:08 AM.
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