2 working adults at pizza shack wages can already obtain that so your argument was a nonstarter. It does take 2, one alone cannot manage it - both adults have to work.

Also, do you really think every single job needs to pay a "livable wage"? Like I said, most pizza-shack level jobs are (or at least were, in my day) filled by kids and young adults. In other words, there are plenty of people in society that do not need a "livable wage" - and requiring every employer to provide one for every job will simply reduce the amount of jobs available to those who simply need to supplement their income, or have spending money.

Besides, if there is a shortage of work - and the supply of adults who need to make a livable wage is overly high to the point where the govt needs to intervene... look to the govt itself as the cause of this situation.

In the end, wages and labor need to respond to market forces. Using "fairness" as a pretext to distort this process will only end badly for all involved, including and especially the lower income people. If adult labor is so abundant that pizza shacks have no problems filling their positions with people willing to work for wages you do not consider livable, then that should tell us something. What it should tell us is not that pizza moguls are evil evil heartless people, but rather that we, as a society have so seriously dropped the ball that the only job many adults can obtain is a job in a pizza shack.

Instead of asking ourselves "how can we use govt violence to force pizza shack moguls to pay wages that are livable in my opinion"... the question we ought to be asking is "how did we arrive here in the first place, and how can we get out of it".

If I appeared to dodge your argument - it is because you are trying to deal with the wrong question.


For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)