Originally Posted By: sinij
Originally Posted By: Vuldan



[quote=Vuldan]
Entitlement programs, regardless of source, are socialist instruments, and no government can sustain them.


Again, you are channeling Fox News. How about Sweden, Netherlands, Canada just to name few?


let's take out the financial aid we give to those countries and see how they stand on their own. Oh wait, we don't even need to do that. Canada is $1trillion in debt- Population 35 million. Sweden is $850 billion in debt- 9.5 million population, The Netherlands $350 billion in debt - 16 million population. We are almost $15 TRILLION in debt, to begin to start up MORE social programs, or add more money to them is absolutely DUMB.

More bailouts and big spending ventures WON'T work and have been proven with the last TWO that they do not. I still have yet to find this well oiled Socialist machine that can stand on it's own without any aid from other countries.