The problem with most leftists, is they will only argue about straw men. Would be refreshing to see one actually discuss something seriously for once, but I swear almost all I have ever seen are ad hominem attacks, tilting at straw men, or Socratian diversions.

Just an FYI also Sinij, it was the left that caused the meltdown just as much as the right. And it was ll statists, which is the real evil here. Go look up Barney Frank sometime, go look up the reasons why financial institutions at the ground level felt compelled to loan to people who couldnt pay it back. What the impetus was for trying to securitize and offload the crappy mortages in the first place. Yeah, you guessed it - because of Govt meddling.

Also, noone likes the crony capitalists either, not sure why you insist on trying to make like that is the case.

For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)