I think you're targeting the wrong person Sinj. Derid is not nearly as vocal as many of the rest of us, and the charge that "you can hardly go anywhere on Oracle without stepping into your droppings" may apply to me or to Wolfgang but definitely not to Derid. I think you need to cool your jets for a minute and refocus your misplaced anger into something more constructive. Please note that not once has Derid attacked you personally. Getting angry at some one simply for disagreeing with you is the sign of a small mind and one unwilling to adjust to change...

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