Originally Posted By: sinij
You (plural) are saying that entitlement programs are fundamentally unconstitutional and that Obama is redistributing wealth.

These are partisan smears, misinformation and FUD.

When I start question it you (plural) ether spew Fox News sound bites or change argument and try to discuss something else. If you want to talk about something else, that is fine but decide what exactly you want to talk about.

What you should be saying is something along the lines "I believe entitlement programs should be reduced because it will benefit the country". Then we can have a discussion about what entitlement programs, how reducing them will benefit and who, and who is likely to support such notions. When you start spewing recycled bullshit in form of "freedom, Constitution and death to communists!" you are not discussing, you spewing propaganda. Trying to frame your opponents as unpatriotic and/or unconstitutional is laughable, you might not realize this but we on the left also read and unlike you understood constitution.


10th Amendment " The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. "

Since the Constitution does not expressly grant the authority, that means it is illegal for the Federal govt to do. It would be legal on a state or local level.

Also, unless the amount doled out by a Federal entitlement program to each person is equal to or less than or equal to the money paid in - it is wealth redistribution. Q.E.D.

For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)