Originally Posted By: sinij
I am truly embarrassed to see how much some of you embraced "I got mine, so screw everyone else" mentality. I know many of you personally and know you to be good people, so it is really puzzling to see how otherwise decent human being could go off the deep end like that.

With 9+% published (and more like 15% real) unemployment finding a job is not that easy, especially when you don't have mobility that someone with above-average income would have. For many of these people moving to cheaper areas, closer to jobs or learning high-demand skills is not an option. They are stuck where they are, doing work they can find locally... and you can't live off that anymore, thanks to open-trade and outsourcing policies that puts so much downward pressure on below-average (half of us are!) population. You can't be serious to expect your fellow countryman (and woman) to live like Chinese factory slaves on about the same income and about the same quality of life.


Government does create jobs, but it has nothing on the potential that the private sector does given little Government involvement via regulation and taxes. What sickens me is when people think the Government the only one that can do all, and that a private sector business is nothing but corruption. Government is corruption. When you have a tax system that is obviously broken and not willing to fix it, but very willing to add more to it is corrupt.

Our politicians only do as much as they can get away with. If we start voting on job performance all of these jackass's will be voted out of office. On the jobs issue, if you can't find a job in your current field then you should look into other fields to find work. It would be grand to be able to find a job in a field you went to college or technical school for. But a job is a job. If that makes me an asshole, who cares.

Too many people look for a handout from the Government, instead of doing a little bit of research and VOTING FOR someone that isn't following their party lines. That is willing to do their JOB and whats best for everyone. Find me a politician that's willing to make big changes with the tax system, to have regulation but not OVER burdened regulation, that believes in social programs to HELP people not to give handouts. I bet you couldn't find more than a few politicians that are willing to do that and be truthful.

There's nothing wrong with protesting. But why are these Wall Street protesters on Wall Street? Wall Street does what they are allowed to do by Government regulation. If companies are making big money because people think they aren't getting taxed fairly, why are they protesting them? They don't make up their own taxes, the Government does. But why are we surprised that it's fucked up, the Chairman of the House Weights and means committee can't figure out how to pay his taxes (See Charlie Rangel) Neither can Geitner, the man that sits at the FED dolling out money unfettered.

I'm still puzzled how you get that we said "We got ours screw your's"We have programs that help people. I personally think the Welfare programs hinders more than it helps. I can agree that if you give someone a trade skill, they can work their way to whatever they want to be or do in their career. With the current economy, it's tough no doubt about it. I was laid off for nearly 2 months but work has picked up in the area I'm skilled in by A LOT. Not sure how you figure we will be working for the same income as a Chinese worker. Last I checked I make in a week what they may in a year. Poor me!

Right now there's a big need for Welders and machinist, where I am. If you want a job, go to your local unemployment office and check with them. I know while I was laid off they were going to train me in other area's after I had been off more than a month. Luckily I was called back, but the opportunity was going to be there to get training through the state in something else. So to sit there and say there is no hope, and the only way they can do anything is to get something FREE from the Government. If that sickens you so be it, if you think the government taking you by the hand telling you when and what you should be doing is the way it should be, well then knock yourself out.

By the way, when the Government gives something it's never free. Tax payers get the bill on that. Bottom line is, if you want fairer taxes then VOTE for someone that's willing to have the balls to stand up and make it happen. Don't just take their word that they want to change, make them give examples and how they intend to fix the tax system. Right now that's a big issue, the economy isn't recovering because companies that have money to invest, won't since the left wants to regulate and tax them into Oblivion. It's not stable, find a fair tax system without regulating them into the dirt and you will find the economy coming back.


Last edited by Wolfgang; 10/16/11 05:49 PM.