Originally Posted By: Longshanks
Time for Shanks to throw his 2.5 cents in ...

Shanks on marriage:

The whole argument is faux ... I have not heard a valid argument to declassify the a civil\religious union between male & female human beings for the purpose of establishing lineage, or kinship (i.e. what is commonly refered to as "Traditional Marriage").

Now, should life partners be afforded civil rights equal to a "traditional marriage" ... such as estate passage, etc ... sure why not, seems fair to me.

But, to somehow think there is no difference between a same-sex civil union & one intended to establish a new genetic lineage is just scientifically & culturally absurd.

If all unions are created equal ... why not just allow direct kin to marry & procreate at will ... I know, know ... those Okies, Texans & Mississippians do it anyway ... but ... it don't make it right.

Just because little Johnny has 2 dads doesn't mean he shares both of their DNA & no matter how much some people want that partnership to mean the same thing as a Mom & Dad traditionally do .. it is not the same, sorry, that is just a fact.


Shanks on Jet's use of the term "gay":

GLBT = Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual & Transgender ... The "L" means leasbian & lesbians definately try not identify themselves as "Gay" ... that's a term for the fellas ... just a fact.


Shanks on Statism\Progressivism\National Socialism\Democratic Socialism\National Capitalism\Liberalism\Communism:

Basically, these terms all represent the same governing philosphy laid out by Marx, each with its own "tweak", just to make it better, each experiment failed! At every pass, the experiment can only be propped up by a highly Authoritative ruling body ... with the people whom it was intended to "benefit", ultimately, facing oppression.

Stalin\Che\Mao\Mussolini\Pinocet\Hitler ... how many hundreds of millions of human beings were slaughtered by these "heros" of the modern american left? Just sad.

Obamacare ... the Authoratarian nature of this experiment is already out in plain view ... you will abide by it or you will be punished by the strong arm of the IRS!

Look across the last 30-40 years of the experiment's implementation in the US ... what do you see:

Public Housing, a failure ...
Public School Systems, failing ...
Generational Welfare, a failure...
Inner City Management, a failure...
Social Justice Ponzi Schemes, failing all around us.

... oh & there are more to list, but why bother there is a patterned outcome ... failure!

What do all these have at the top ... an Authoratarian ruling class rooted in a bureaucracy chartered with mandating, regulating, or otherwise oppressing, those it claims to serve.

But then again, so many people just want to be told what to do, when to do it & how to do it ... but there was a time when:

personal responsibility > pointing the finger
parents looked after all the kids in the neighborhood
folks felt ashamed at having to ask for another's charity
neighbors looked out for each other
people relished success & scorned mediocrity.
health insurance was actually an insurance plan, not a discount club.

See, Marx's experiment would rather do away with individualism ... "workers of the world unite", and all that rubbish? Problem is, there's always a pesky Authoratarian ruling class pulling the strings ... kind of like a cult mentality thesedays ... so odd to me.

Well, at least there are still plenty of us, free men and women, who do the right thing ... not because some dogma tells us to, or some gov't agency compels us to, but ... because, well, it's just the right thing to do. We volunteer at local charities, look after the well being of our neighbors, toss a coin in the old man on the street's cup, slow down & wave on the poor driver trying to merge into traffic, hold the door open for the lady with her hands full of grocery bags ... right down to picking up gaming accounts for friends who find themselves in tough times.

These are the types of people I am proud to call my friends in life.

Shanks out!


Really?

1) Marriage
I know lots of people who get married and have no intention of having children. There is nothing in the law that supports your opinion. In my opinion, your description of marriage just doesn't hold water.

2) Gay
Gay is a generic term for GBLT. No need to split hairs here. When Ellen came out on TV and lost her TV show afterwards, she exclaimed "Im Gay". So at least one persona agrees with me. I agree with your terms, but there are many examples of "Gay" being used for all cases.


3) You said: "Shanks on Statism\Progressivism\National Socialism\Democratic Socialism\National Capitalism\Liberalism\Communism:"

Lumping Democrats and Progressives with Hitler, Stalin, and their ideals is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard, and totally unfounded. How can you associate mass murder with me and the people that think like me. Amazing and ridiculous.

Just a few points though:

I am a product of public school, and consider myself successful as I make an above average income, and am stable in my life.

I strongly support Social Security, and have paid more than my share into it over the years. Like it or not, it is successful.

I strongly support Medicare, and have paid my share over the years. Like it or not, it is successful.

I strongly support unemployment insurance and yet I have never used it, but have paid more than my share over the years. Like it or not it is successful.

Without these programs, this country would be in ruins (in my opinion) and I am positive that a majority of Americans agree with me, because a majority of Americans voted the current president into office, thereby verifying support for the programs and agenda that has been followed. That does not make me have ANYTHING to do with Stalin\Che\Mao\Mussolini\Pinocet\Hitler. Denying people the same rights as others just because their sexual preference including not allowing them to defend their country to me smells alot like Stalin\Che\Mao\Mussolini\Pinocet\Hitler. I mean replace homosexual with Jew and the conservative right of this country is going down the exact same path as the Nazi. party


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