Originally Posted by Brutal
The Arc de Triomphe was commissioned by Napoleon, who also ended up being a loser.


Well since the guy who commissioned it was a national hero I don't think this really applies here. Also, it was to commemorate a victory.


Originally Posted by Sini
Magna Carta is signed by a loser.


Magna Carta was his attempt to keep the peace. Also, it is not a monument.

My limited education in history may be wrong.


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