I wouldn't disagree Binbs, Vuldan Ironhand is the biggest moron alive and FUBAR'd our Shadowbane start. With Beta being so underpopulated and boring as sin to play we just let that time go by since other good games were out at the time.
But if the bandwagon was for KGB instead of COS then it was a very small and gimpy bandwagon indeed cause typically the side receiving the support of the bandwagon gets a zerg army that steam rolls others. But we never had superior numbers to CoS during the raids (and its debatable but on average probably true we were out skilled by CoS as well) feel free to add posistive or negetive thoughts on this - im speaking as a 3rd party since Vuldan kept me out of his decision making process or even liked that I wanted to lead raid groups.

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