my problem with DF is that i feel like i have done it all in development and the lack of a reason to pvp.

i guess i am a bit odd but i liked the grind to me the grind was the best bit working to get those numbers up to get the next skill.

unless DF2 is realy a totaly different game i feel that i will end up thinking been there done that within days and just not see the point in it.

it was not the grind that killed DF it was the fall of Wessex back on EU