Well I for one, have never ascribed to the belief we were afraid of the goons. I can assure you of that, I was just illustrating the point that guilds are separate entities regardless of any arrangements, and that what befalls one isn't necessarily going to involve the other or that it's individuals which determine a guilds worth and reputation.

I am Wrath, I am Steel, I am the Mercy of Angels.
mors est merces mea – death is my reward
morte in vitam non habet tenaci - Death has no grip on Life.
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