Goons arent "griefers" in darkfall. Somethingawful.com is a huge community, theres lots of spawn-off guilds, some better than others. The Darkfall variety so far are disciplined and political, and their leadership is from UO and SB.

Wessex, the guild they looted, is part of a zerg of many thousands of people that makes CN look like a pet ant colony.

For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)