Originally Posted By: RedKGB
"3- all non social security systems need to be outlawed. id be happy if social security was too but lets be reasonable"


This is very standard argument. Conservatives (not my POV, but you asked me to defend this point) point out that tax outlays are wealth transfer and discourage wealth generation.

Such argument is usually countered by pointing out that for true equality starting point must be the same, that not everyone who falls through the cracks had as fair shot at "making it" as you or me.

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