There is so much smoke in this thread its hard to find the fire. Ryans plan is far from perfect, but it at least addresses some of the major problems.

What did Obamas budget do? how did obamas budget do? 419-0 I believe.

You libs can demogoge this all you want; its far easier to tear down something than make your own. didnt lil timmy geitner the tax cheat say "we dont have a plan, but we dont like yours"?

guess what? no one is going to like it. cutting back always sucks.

so go ahead and vote for obama and his genius sidekick biden. the thought of people actually doing that is hilarious to me

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