- Derid, by the way I've been trying to figure out what makes people try to use Cartesianism and Descartes in the modern world.
"When you have time", and I know today, "Time" is a scarcy thing, please watch this documentary, after the middle I think, if I remember correctly it will nail this old and wrong line of thinking.
The Superior Human?

Second dont fool yourself about meat, while you said I agree putting additives worse the frame itself, this is an interesting article about prostate cancer.

Urological Institute Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions

An Evolutionary Wrong Turn


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The saga of human evolution is also a story of two male glands, both of which produce fluid that makes up semen. One gland, the prostate, is prone to cancer. The other, the seminal vesicle, is remarkably free of it.

Only mammals have prostates. By definition, only mammals have breasts, as well. Breasts and prostates seem to have evolved on parallel tracks, says Coffey: When some animals evolved into mammals -- in other words, "when the female developed the breast, and fed her children by breast milk, that's when the prostate appeared in the male." Today, breast cancer and prostate cancer seem to be two sides of the same coin, as well: Countries with high rates of breast cancer tend to have a lot of prostate cancer; countries with low rates of prostate cancer have relatively few case of breast cancer. When people migrate from areas with little breast or prostate cancer to places with high rates, their own odds increase with time ".

In nature, animals that are carnivores -- meat-eaters like lions -- don't have seminal vesicles. The only animals that have both prostates and seminal vesicles are herbivores--veggie-eating animals like bulls, apes, and elephants.

We are the huge glaring exception to this rule: Men have seminal vesicles, too. In other words, man, a meat-lover has the makeup of an animal that should be a vegetarian. The fact that men eat meat seem to be a mistake that nature never accounted for. How can this be? In exploring this question, Coffey looked a few rungs further down the evolutionary ladder and found the pigmy chimp, called the bonobo, "the closest ape to which we at distant relative." Bonobos and humans have many things in common. Diet is not one of them: Bonobos are--as humans probably were, very long ago -- vegetarians. They don't get prostate cancer.

"Most apes only eat fruits and vegetables and greens," says Coffey. "When we climbed down out of the trees, we became hunter-gatherers -- but it's only recently that humans started eating and processing meat in a big way. In fact, out of the 4 million years since we split off from the great primates, it's only in the last 600,000 years that we even cooked. All that time, we were eating whatever we could scavenge and catch." About 12,000 years ago, humans took the next big step and started producing their own food. "This was a major change in diet and lifestyle: We changed from the way we had evolved, and started eating more processed meat. We quit running after animals, started herding them, and then started breeding them in captivity. We became sedentary. We quit eating a great variety of fresh vegetables and greens from 3,000 types down to about 20. We started smoking our meat, salting it, putting nitrates on it. Now we get everything from the store, nothing from a farm. We call it fresh, but it's not fresh, especially our meat," which most of us prefer well-done, not raw. "Everything is cooked."

For decades, the American Cancer Society and National Cancer Institute have urged Americans to lower their cancer risk by changing their diet: "Cut down the animal fats, cut down the dairy products," says Coffey. "We were not big dairy people until 3,000 years ago; now, we put cheese on everything that moves. A few apes eat meat, but no ape ever cooked or put cheese on anything. We need more fiber, more fresh fruits and vegetables, more aerobic exercise. All of our experience in cancer prevention is telling us to return to the way we evolved."


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