Red, there are multiple approaches to debating - some are very direct, like agree/disagree, others like discrediting ideas or guilt by association are very roundabout and often can be demonstrated as a logical fallacy.

Difference is, debate is always about ideas. I can say "this is moronic idea", and while poor form it is still debate until it turns into "you are moron because of your ideas". There is a lot of gray areas, but "I can't wait to piss on your grave" is clearly not a debate.

Stick to debating, this is what this forum is for. Avoid abuse, not only it is against the rules, but it also detracts from any opinions you present.

Now, listen. The only reason I am taking time explaining all of this to you is because your unhinged behavior put this forum in danger. You might not see your actions as wrong, but fairly overwhelming consensus is that they are. Enough so, that people question if we should be allowed to have political debate, considering people flying off the rails over it.


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