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I wish I was making this up. Its like building a German youth center in Judah to plant the seed of peace. You don't deal with militant fascism that is the minority of the population by building them a center for congregation. You deal with them by wiping them off the face of the planet every time they pop there stupid ass out of a cave and try to continue the Jihad.

Because make no mistake about it, we are at war with an undercurrent of militants bent on toppling free markets, republics, and any semblance of democracy, be they Muslim, Christian, nationalists, or foreigners, makes no difference.

I just really wish these Tea Party dip shit douche bags would get blown up on a bus or something, so they can stop quoting these people who are almost as bad as the Jihadist's.



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NEW YORK – After hours of contentious public comment, a New York City community board voted late Tuesday to support a plan to build a mosque and cultural center near ground zero.

"It's a seed of peace," board member Rob Townley said. "We believe that this is significant step in the Muslim community to counteract the hate and fanaticism in the minority of the community."

The vote was 29-to-1 in favor of the plan, with 10 abstentions. The move by the Manhattan Community Board 1, while not necessary for the building's owners to move forward with the project, is seen as key to obtaining residents' support.

The meeting was unruly, with project opponents jeering at speakers and holding signs, yelling comments such as "You're building over a Christian cemetery!"

Many said they were not opposed to a mosque — just not one that's two blocks from ground zero.

The families of Sept. 11 victims "would be wounded by erecting a mega mosque so close to the place where their loved ones were massacred," said Viviana Hernandez, a chaplain. "Even though they may have altruistic reasons, the real terrorists will see it as a win on their side."

Tea party activist Mark Williams has called the proposed center a monument to the terror attacks.

The organizations sponsoring the project said they are trying to establish a vibrant and inclusive-world class facility.

Plans for the Cordoba House include a performing arts center, swimming pool, culinary school, child care facilities and worship space.

It would provide 150 full-time jobs, 500 part-time jobs and an investment in more than $100 million in infrastructure in the city's financial district, according to Daisy Khan, spokeswoman for the Cordoba House.

Khan's husband, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, executive director of the Cordoba Initiative, one of the project's sponsors, said he understood the pain that people have about 9/11. But he said his community and congregation were among those that died in the attacks.

"We have condemned the terror of 9/11," he said. "We have worked to ensure that our mosques are not recruiting grounds for terrorists."

Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer said in a statement that by supporting the multi-faith community and cultural center, the board "sent a clear message that our city is one that promotes diversity and tolerance."

Stringer has been the target of disparaging remarks by Williams for supporting the plans and has defended his position and denounced offensive speech directed at him or at Muslims.

He said before the vote that he understood the sensitivities of the families of 9/11 victims.

"I don't think anybody wants to do anything to disrespect those families. They made the ultimate sacrifice," he said. "At the same time, we have to balance diversity and look for opportunities to bring different groups together."

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said there were no security concerns about building a mosque in the area.

The American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative have said that they bought the building in 2009 and planned to break ground later this year. It could take up to three years to build the Cordoba House. A Friday prayer service has been held at the building since September 2009.

Besides the political and social opposition to the project, city officials say the plan also could be hindered by a decades-old proposal to give landmark status to a building that would be replaced by the mosque and center.

City officials say the current building, constructed between 1857 and 1858 in the Italian Renaissance palazzo style, is historically and architecturally significant.

Bruce Wallace, who lost a nephew on 9/11, said the center can change the misperceptions about Islam.

"The moderate Muslim voice has been squashed in America," he said. "Here is a chance to allow moderate Muslims to teach people that not all Muslims are terrorists."


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These so called revolutionaries in the tea party are liars and frauds, they are no more a constitutionalists then I am a communist, and as they try and wrap themselves in the American flag, and play themselves off as true patriots it disgusts me, and quite frankly angers me greatly, true patriotism isn't bought with money, or swindled out of people with rhetoric or political agendas to enforce a single belief or way of seeing things. A revolutionary bucks the system it doesn't lay down with it.


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Heard it was scheduled to open on 9/11/11. Poor taste and judgement imho. This is an insult to anyone who had loved ones die on 9/11/01. And is most certainly a "marker" for victory over the area to radical muslims.


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This could be the gun toting,bible grasping,wrapped in the flag redneck in me...but I say FUCK THEM! I would punch someone in the dick sucker if they said this is a good Idea that was within arms lenght.

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Typically, throughout history: The victorious conqueror, after destroying the subjugated populace's iconic landmarks, power centers, or religious centers; will then build their own icons on top in order to eventually convert and sway that populace - especially future generations.

When our grandchildren go to that area in the future, they will vaguely recall a terrorist attack, but they will SEE a Mosque. When their grandchildren's grandchildren go to that area (if anything is still around), they will only see the mosque, as the 911 incident may no longer be taught or remembered at that point.


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If it is taught in schools it will be taught that it was our fault. History is written by the victors. Those strong enough to carry out the fight to the end. Not many from my generation have that strength so not sure if the next will either.


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