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Sini #141156 07/28/17 10:15 AM
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Ok, why do YOU think that voters have rejected the Democratic party?

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Originally Posted by Derid
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If you want to know who looks foolish, it's Democrats who will not admit to their current electoral collapse.


I still think its funny that when Trump is criticized, you just lower the bar by pointing to bad Dems.


Careful there, you are going to get RINOed for this.


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Originally Posted by Derid
I'm kinda surprised you're on the Trumpwagon though.


I am surprised that you are surprised. I think well-established record and past conduct should have equipped you to predict this turn of events.

Perhaps you can now see significant drawback of your past "my team" approach.


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Originally Posted by Derid
Whatever numbnuts the Dems manage to cough up to replace Trump (in the unlikely event Trump makes it through the first four years without resigning in the face of impeachment) might not even screw things up badly enough to wash the taste out of voters' mouths.


About the only democrat capable of losing to Trump in the next election is Hillary, and unfortunately she is not off the table.


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Originally Posted by Owain
Stupid hypotheticals are stupid.


So I think after 3 dodges in a row, it can be safely part of the record that Owain is unconditional Trump supporter.


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Originally Posted by Sini
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I'm kinda surprised you're on the Trumpwagon though.


I am surprised that you are surprised. I think well-established record and past conduct should have equipped you to predict this turn of events.

Perhaps you can now see significant drawback of your past "my people" approach.



I see Sini is finally back out of his box with well made progressive blinders on.

I assume you still make policy's for the left like; sucker punch people you don't like and if you say it enough people will start to believe you and truth and facts don't matter just catchy slogans

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Hele, when people in black helicopters show up to take away your guns, it will be easy to trace such outcome to your support of Trump. Causationally.


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Originally Posted by Owain
Ok, why do YOU think that voters have rejected the Democratic party?


Derid has made it pretty clear, and I agree with him 100%, that the Democrat party is shit. It's shit now, it was shit 8 years ago, and it was shit 40 years before that. The issue is not the Democrat party, because as you are keen to point out, they are currently not relevant. The issue is the Republican party and the President. He was elected on a promise to "drain the swamp" and "make America great again" but all we've seen since his election is a spike in cronyism, infighting (within his own party and cabinet mind, not between himself and dems), and a steady stream of embarrassing tweets, speeches, etc.

Voters rejected the Democrat candidate because she is a criminal, and the part is a shit show. They ran to the only viable alternative they were given. My argument is that the alternative isn't really any better (and that's saying something), and that the conversation needs to be about how to get rid of ALL OF THEM. What has to happen for the voting public to realize what's happening and what's at stake? I've been ashamed of the government many times before, but for the first time in my 37 years I'm actually ashamed of my country.

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Trump is draining the swamp in things he can do unilaterally, such as the elimination of much of regulatory state, elimination of Obama's abusive executive orders, and enforcing laws as written.

Things that require action by Congress, a coequal branch of government, he cannot do unilaterally, nor should anyone want him to be able to do so.


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Originally Posted by Sini
Originally Posted by Owain
Stupid hypotheticals are stupid.


So I think after 3 dodges in a row, it can be safely part of the record that Owain is unconditional Trump supporter.

OK, now you are just lying.

If you want to swap hypotheticals, what is your stand on the subject of Elizabeth Warren and canibalism? If you would disapprove of that, what crime against humanity would you be willing to accept?

Do you see why I think that hypotheticals are stupid?

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