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Originally Posted By: Derid

In this case I do not think it is a matter of drama/not drama. When the Fed tries to create certain results by artificially setting something like interest rates as opposed to allowing the market to price them - that is the definition of communism.

The Fed is attempting to fix the cost of borrowing money. It is economic interventionism of a massively mind boggling scale (trillions) carried out with the idea that the prolitariat committee (Fed Board) knows what the proper cost of borrowing money should be. I do not see how it could be construed as anything but communism.


Just to demonstrate my point, I replaced central planning with communism in your quote. That is how I read your reply.


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So what you're really saying, Sinij, is that since you associate central planning with communism then all of us who you think are dumber than you, must also equate the two.

Thanks for the clarification.

As to your "I don't want my own words used against me" argument. It doesn't fly
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I unequivocally support gun control in all forms and aspects
See? Anyone can type anything they want inside those little quotes and if it is taken out of context then shame on the poster for being dishonest and shame on the reader for not checking the source.

Please don't let me interrupt though. I do so love reading posts that clearly single out folks who share a similar political bend with me, and assumes they are dimmer than a two watt bulb in a power outage simply because of their political leanings. BTW, after so many of these insults, the same "I didn't mean to demean you" apology seems trite and lacks sincerity.


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Kaotic, you don't get to automatically distance from your side's clear and loud message, especially when GOP is all but shouting from the rooftops that this and that is a government takeover, socialism and communism without actually understanding what any of it means. Wrong is wrong is wrong.

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Sinij, is that since you associate central planning with communism then all of us who you think are dumber than you, must also equate the two.


I don't accept your premise. Specifically, I don't think "all of us"(any of you) are dumber than me, I can't even start describing what intelligence is in context of political debate, least start quantifying it. Second, I don't equate (you said associate, but clearly meant equate) central planning with communism, but simply work within limitations of a wide-spread preconception.

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I do so love reading posts that clearly single out folks who share a similar political bend with me


Single out? No, I generalized.

Some conservatives believe central planning is communism. Kaotic is a conservative. Kaotic talks about central planning.

Kaotic does not necessary believe that central planning is communism. When talking to a conservative about central planning, it is possible that conservative think you are talking about communism. If you talk to enough conservatives, you will run into one that thinks central planning is communism.

Hope this explains it.

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Originally Posted By: Prism

Originally Posted By: JetStar
I just wish the Republican House was more interested in turning around the economy than defeating Obama.
First Things First.

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Thanks for making my point :-)


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Originally Posted By: sinij
I'd explain this in detail, but this is too much effortposting and is unlikely to be understood by many/any posters here.
This is you calling the rest of us stupid.
Originally Posted By: sinij
Specifically, I don't think "all of us"(any of you) are dumber than me, I can't even start describing what intelligence is in context of political debate, least start quantifying it. Second, I don't equate (you said associate, but clearly meant equate) central planning with communism, but simply work within limitations of a wide-spread preconception.

Single out? No, I generalized.
I know the meaning of the words I use, and I mean what I say. I said associate and I meant it. You said equate so clearly I was wrong in assuming that you only associate central planning with communism, when the reality is that you consider them to be the same thing. I believe that's what you're accusing the right of. Congratulations, you're projecting.

If you actually read and understood my posts then you'd see that I accused you of singling out a group of people. Assigning a quality to a group is a generalization.


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Originally Posted By: Prism

Originally Posted By: JetStar
I just wish the Republican House was more interested in turning around the economy than defeating Obama.
First Things First.

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Thanks for making my point :-)
Oh for fuck's sake this is ridiculous. Obama had two whole fucking years with a super majority in congress to get done whatever he thought would fix the economy and he failed. All he managed to do was force through Obamacare. So, you don't get to blame republicans in congress now for shit he didn't do in TWO WHOLE YEARS.


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Originally Posted By: Kaotic
This is you calling the rest of us stupid.


Economics are dry as fuck, not everybody is interested. Plus saying that someone might not understand what is post-grad to PHD level subject in obscure field is NOT an insult.

There are things I will never understand, like particle physics or string theory. I don't get insulted when this pointed out to me.


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This thread got to a semantics station, I think this is where I get off.


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Originally Posted By: sinij
This thread got to a semantics station, I think this is where I get off.


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Wow. You're the driver who pulled into the semantics station and now you're using that as an excuse to bail...


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