The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY!

I HOPE RICK PERRY WINS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION! Here are a few reasons WHY!! I would love for Obama to be against this guy!


Rick Perry not a true conservative and his actions are those of a Democrat... This guy will say anything to get elected...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html
Perry was not just a Democrat... He was Al Gore’s campaign chairman for Texas... He conveniently changed parties to Republican to get an appointment in the Republican State house. Perry decided it was more convenient to be a Republican… Now he claims (for convenience) he is a Tea Party supporter…
http://www.enviroknow.com/2011/06/23/rick-perry-al-gore-1988/
And yes, Al Gore was a Global Warming kook back then when Perry staunchly supported Al Gore and his Global Warming policies...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html
Tries to Get Out of Ticket with unlawful use of office - Texas State Trooper Dash camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E8CvXIY6mgk
Crony Quid-pro-quo... Mega-donors have won hefty contracts or appointments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlsZgKvu4I&feature=share
Crony kick backs and vaccines that killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlsZgKvu4I&feature=share
http://www.politicolnews.com/rick-perrys-texas-mandated-vaccine-law/
Perry has blood on his hands…
http://www.flainjurylawyerblog.com/2011/01/merck-vaccine-gardasil-linked.html
Bwa-hahahaha! Rick Perry fans, CHECK THIS: "Does this ASS make my TRUCK look big?!" lmao!
Says border fence is "Nonsense"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1DqcdL6_wE&feature=share
Endorsed by Mexican President for Giving Mexicans Scholarships!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYLf2AJFPg
Would veto Arizona immigration law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxX1afjeols&NR=1
Close ties to Islam [who cares? --RDH]
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/wi...rt-his-campaign
Wielded his enormous power to influence changes in the schoolrooms and in the curriculum to reflect a Sharia compliant version of Islam. Some students in Texas think Muslims discovered America thanks to Perry...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/geller-rick-perry-the-stealth-jihad-candidate.html
[Again, I do not care about people learning about Islam but we do need to retain accuracy in the truth of history --RDH]
Pro NAFTA
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/08/12/rick-perrys-nafta-superhighway-problem/
Willing to hand over US soil to foreign nations.
http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles...a-for-same.aspx
Don’t Believe the Hype. Meet the Real Rick Perry
http://www.rlc.org/2011/08/12/texas-rlc-sends-out-warning-on-rick-perry/
He was picked by the liberal commercial media... not the people. He will not make it past first base. Even with the Republican women dreaming of sex in the White House with him... Even Clinton is getting jealous and fears he may have his White House sexcapade record broken.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/15/bill_clinton_rick_perry_a_good-looking_rascal.html
This guy is almost as bad as Obama and could pass for Clinton Jr.
I'm hearing now he even fast tracked the smart meters that are burning down people’s homes.
--- End of "Atom Ant" research.

Rick Perry sucking on a corn dog at the 2011 Iowa State Fair (after their Straw Poll)
More "DIRT" (just a few links I picked up about him in the past week):
Rick Perry was Democrat Al Gore's Campaign Manager in 1988:
http://www.enviroknow.com/2011/06/23/rick-perry-al-gore-1988/
Slideshow: When Rick Perry was a Democrat, by Texas Tribune Staff
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-people/rick-perry/slideshow-when-rick-perry-was-democrat/

Rick Perry once worked with ACORN! yes, THAT ACORN!!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&theater
Former Reagan aide: ‘Rick Perry is an idiot’ | Raw Replay
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/former-reagan-aide-rick-perry-is-an-idiot/
Whatever Rick Perry’s Record Is, It’s Not Conservative | The New Republic
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/9390...tm_medium=email
Rick Perry Imagines Day One:
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/19/7417042-rick-perry-imagines-day-one#comments
TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jfQrb4wAE&feature=share
Rick Perry is the Bankers' Answer to Ron Paul [those same BANKERS who are against Ron Paul - making sense yet?]:
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-is-the-bankers-answer-to-ron-paul/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Lrj9-gHpQsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkMkJ5s1j0I&feature=player_embedded
Rick Perry on Al Gore, the NAFTA Superhighway, and Bilderberg:
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-on-al-gore-the-nafta-superhighway-and-bilderberg/

Rick Perry = another George W. Bush!
Rick Perry Said He Was Just Like George W. Bush (a FAKE Texan):
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/06/the_time_rick_perry_said_he_wa.html
Rick Perry Said Bush Defended Us From Freedom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysAqO8nG-QA&feature=share
Rick Perry is the Neo-Con Warmonger Choice for President:
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-is-the-neocon-warmonger-choice-for-president/
[former Mexico El Presidente] Vicente Fox Thanks Governor Perry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWLrI7RQetQ&feature=share
Bank of America to Rick Perry: 'We Will Help You Out'
[PROOF that BROKE BIG BANKS are funding corrupt politicians to further the demise of America!]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fRhb0awjAg
How Rick Perry aggressively pursued federal aid he now decries:
http://news.yahoo.com/rick-perry-aggressively-pursued-federal-aid-now-decries-095000694.html
Sultan Knish: Rick Perry and Islam [WHERE ARE ALL THE ZIONIST or Israel-supporter OPINIONS AT???]
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/08/rick-perry-and-islam.html
Ron Paul mocks Rick Perry, credits Jon Stewart - Alexander Burns:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61609.html
Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html
VIDEO: Rick Perry Don't Need No Stinkin' Free Market!
http://stuffedsuits.com/news/national-politics/764-rick-perry-shady-donor-deals-exposed
Michelle Malkin » Plumbing the rest of the Perry record
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/18/plumbing-the-rest-of-the-perry-record/
Rick Perry the Pornographer [from Russia Today]
https://rt.com/usa/news/rick-perry-porn-movie/
Tea Party Fraud Rick Perry is Political Herpes [he regularly cheated on his wife and was always running around with local STRIPPERS] -- this is a VERY REVEALING article written by my friend Robert Morrow of Austin, Texas:
http://www.stuffedsuits.com/news/national-politics/721-fraud-rick-perry-is-political-herpes
Ron Paul backer runs ad seeking dirt on Rick Perry's personal life "Have YOU had sex with Rick Perry?":
[Credit to Austin, Texas activist / CASH founder Mr. Robert Morrow for actually placing this ad himself!]
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-backer-runs-ad-seeking-dirt-rick-193010516.html
Ad: 'Have You Had Sex With Rick Perry?' - Politics News Story - KERO Bakersfield:
http://www.turnto23.com/politics/28903972/detail.html
The untold story of a lunch receipt with Rick Perry's name on it from a place that features drag shows...
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/the-untold-story-of-a-lunch-receipt-with-1040441.html
Gay rumors complicate Rick Perry's presidential prospects — RT [Russia Today]
http://rt.com/usa/news/gay-rick-perry-campaign/
Texas Governor's Gay Sex Scandal Covered in Austin paper, the First Non-Internet Media Outlet...
http://www.opednews.com/thoreau022704_texas_governor.htm
Rick Perry his strippers, hookers, gay affairs, bisexual adultery interview - well summarized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAOf-amXolE
The now-infamous (and NATIONWIDE!) “Have you had sex with Rick Perry” advertisement by CASH / Robert Morrow:
http://www.turnto23.com/politics/28903972/detail.html
Ron Paul backer runs ad seeking dirt on Rick Perry’s personal life
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-backer-runs-ad-seeking-dirt-rick-193010516.html
‘It’s Rather Silly’: Ron Paul Responds to Supporter’s Rick Perry Sex Ad Controversy
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/its-rath...ad-controversy/
And my friend "East Bay Truther" said: "Closet gays are the worst, They usually go berserk and kill other gays. Its called self hate. Look at Hitler. Hitler was a doo doo chaser. Most of the high up NAZI's were fudge packers." lmao (this is true!
TEXAS GOVERNOR RICK PERRY EXPOSED !!! HE'S AN ANTI-GAY HOMOPHOBE !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf9CyaVKAC0
Rick Perry's Hardcore History of Investment in Porn:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-investment-porn
Rick Perry Spent $78 at La Te Da Drag Queen Show in Florida in 2009 | Before It's News
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/968/604/R...da_in_2009.html
Did you know that Rick Perry was a MALE CHEERLEADER? lol No kidding!
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/blog/swrt/15195-texas-gov-rick-perry-male-cheerleader.html
Rick Perry Hurt Little Girls:
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-hurt-little-girls/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CSBXSdoYqvk
Gardasil - The Damage is Done: From A Best Friend's View:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2z6RK2uTWc
Rick Perry would de-fund Planned Parenthood, but not his Forced Vaccine Executive Order - under his Big Government Program:
http://www.politicolnews.com/rick-perrys-texas-mandated-vaccine-law/

Rick Perry Fervently Supported the TARP Bailouts in 2008 | Unelected.org : http://www.unelected.org/rick-perry-ferv...BK1Pfc.facebook The letter Rick Perry wrote to Pelosi urging her to pass TARP (the bank bail-outs of 2008!!). http://unelected.org/wp-content/perry_letter.jpg
He leads CHEERS for the tyrannical ESTABLISHMENT, as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XSKHbPnekI
Bush / Obama. Demo-rat Republi-scam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0&sns=fb
Rick Perry Fervently Supported the TARP Bailouts in 2008 | Unelected.org :
http://www.unelected.org/rick-perry-ferv...BK1Pfc.facebook
The letter Rick Perry wrote to Pelosi urging her to pass TARP (the bank bail-outs of 2008!!).
http://unelected.org/wp-content/perry_letter.jpg
"Gov. Rick Perry is a happy executioner, having presided over 230 executions in Texas. That’s more, reported The Texas Tribune, “than any other modern governor of any state.”
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/killer_in_chief_20110818/
--- And, from Zack Brown:

Political caricature (artist unknown)
14 Reasons Why Rick Perry Would Be A Really, Really Bad President:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archive...y-bad-president
Rick Perry is a "big government" politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion. That is not exactly reducing the size of government.
The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to http://USDebtClock.org/, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.
The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?
Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.
Rick Perry claims that he has a "track record" of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.
Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.
Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore's campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.
Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.
Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation. The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year... "We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores. We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries."
Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.
Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.
Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.
In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.
Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade. Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then, very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light. Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do. According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when "apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck's hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work."

Austin, Texas activist Robert Morrow's recently placed NATIONWIDE ad: Ad: 'Have You Had Sex With Rick Perry?' - Politics News Story - KERO Bakersfield: http://www.turnto23.com/politics/28903972/detail.html
So, now knowing all of this, do you STILL want to vote for Rick Perry or support ANYTHING he does in the future?! If you do, you have to be EVIL or CRAZY!

You could also vote for Ron Paul.

Jet is more the Big Gov't type though. He just doesnt feel right if Gov't isnt taking boatloads of his money and doling it out to politically connected cronies. Perry vs Obama would be a win-win for him

I think it's hilarious that he used to be a democrat. And praised Hilary at one time! He should be your hero Jet!

I would rather see the other Texan (Ron Paul) win. Derid is correct, Jet likes his hand held.

We should regulate business more, that way we can force every company in America to go overseas. Then we should tax the millionaires and Billionaires 75% of their earnings (oh yeah, don't forget those millionaires & billionaires begin at $250,000 salary, because you know $250K is a millionaire)

Once Obamacare kicks in,doctors won't be making the big money anymore, so having a $200,000 college loan to become a doctor would no longer be financially wise. Can you say shortage of doctors anyone?

Also instead of having real tax reform, we can just add thousands more tax laws to the bad system we have in place now. Don't worry though, if you FORGET to pay your taxes you will go straight to jail... UNLESS your name is Timothy Geitner or Charlie Rangel then it's ok, because YOU FORGOT!

Well you all forget, it is either going to be Romney, Perry, or Obama. Paul cant win, it is that simple.

I guess you guys are going to have your health care coverage taken care of for the rest of your life WITHOUT Medicare. My parents do not have this option, nor will I. I choose to vote in my own interest, as all of you should do the same. It works in europe, and even canada.

I have paid into Social Security and Medicate for my entire life, never having been unemployed since I was 13 years old (paper route).

You guys are freaking nuts if you think industries will self regulate and that private enterprise can produce all of the great achievements our government has been able to.

I have learned that talking to you guys is a real waste of time, and I will love to see what happens if you all manage to get either Perry or Romney in the White House. Its going to be a total fucking disaster especially for Woman's rights (all the want to do is kill abortion) and for the economy as a whole.

Lets just enact the flat tax and be done with it, but you are all smart enough to know that is not going to happen. If I have to pick between Romney, Perry, or Obama, I pick Obama hands down. If you people take the time to look at either Romney or Perry's history, or policy ideas, and still support them, then there is no reason for me to keep talking to you about this. If you are naive enough to think that Ron Paul has a chance, then I probably should not be talking to you about this anyways.

Honestly it is the lessor of two evils, and to me, Obama wins. I hope to god the rest of the country thinks the same.

Jet,

We have known each other a long, long time, and in most things I like you just fine. But your political stance is complete ass and I would, without hesitation mind you, seriously punch you up side your head in real life if you ever spout 1/4 of that horse shit you spew. It is mind bogling that someone as intelligent as you can not see past the rhetoric yoou have been shoveled.

Government was not designed to take care of people. Period. And I am sick to death of everyone with a liberal mind set attempting to make it do so. Go the fuck to Russia, PLEASE.

And no..Rick Perry is a nightmare waiting to happen. The one thing I am 60% confident of right now is that Obama has a very, and I do mean very, slim chance of getting re-elected. It is only a matter of which way the job situation and economy go in the next 12 months. Without a big win in that arena, he will not be re-elected. And that is a double edge sword, cause as sure as hell he needs to go, the frightening part is who might replace him. And do not fool yourself for one minute Jet, if it comes down to Obama and Perry, you are whacked if you think Perry does not have a chance. As scary as that is, he will pull many votes that Obama thinks are his away, as well as every vote from the conservative base and in a no win, one or the other, he will pull even the tea party and many independants, just because Obama has been such a pathetic excuse for a President.

Yes they are making profit, so why are they still going overseas? And laying off? I'm not saying we don't need regulation, and if you don't think there is bad regulation, then there is no sense of continuing this discussion. I never said NO regulation, i'm saying no to over regulation... in which YOUR President has said there is some in Government. So obviously you have issues with him as well.



Fixed salaries,100% healthcare... now why are they in debt again? Also, isn't our population like 5 times their size? Remeber the Hawai childcare single payer state funded Insurance? It lasted 8 months, then they had to dump it from the cost. I'm willing to do healthcare reform, first off lets put in some tort reform. Lets face it there's a lot of frivilous lawsuits. And yes, I know there's legitimate malpractice as well. Lets not make it so easy for any douchebag trying to score an easy buck. Also, lets be able to buy Insurance across state lines. Competition helps. If the government were a little more efficient and didn't have so much Bureaucractic BS, cost wouldn't be so high.



I agree we need a new tax solution. Maybe something like a low national tax, along with a consumer based tax. When the wealthy go to buy all those Jets, they will have a tax on it. Then again, you're right... politics are to corrupt to change a corrupt tax system. Because all those millionaires making $250,000 a year need to be taxed more.

The only thing all of you have touched on that makes perfect sense is the flat tax, but I have and many others have been saying that for years. It would solver the countries debt issue almost over night. But we wont ever see it..

Actually as we break this down, we come closer and closer to agreement.

Wolfgang, you are actually starting to make sense.

Believe you me, I am not 100% for everything democratic. I am just picking the lessor of two evils.

So what is it going to be Wolf, Derid, and Vuldam? Perry, Romney, or Obama? I am so curious who you would choose if it came down to it. Then after you make your decision, lets break down their policies and what it means to America for the next 4 to 8 years.

This is going to be interesting if you guys go along with this thread.