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Israel, being surrounded by enemies was forced to "defend" them self as they see fit. How? First by making their neighbor poor and creating a chaos. They weaken their enemy economically to criple them. Remember, war capability is related to economic.




Huh? The arabs living in that area were dirt poor to begin with, and have done nothing to change that in the last 60 years or so, so I think it's a bit of a stretch to blame that on the Israelies. Millions of dollars have been poured into the area, and if the Palestinians want to spend that on AK-47's and RPG's instead of schools, farms and industry, then they are morons.
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On the other hand, Israel desperate enemy can not face an open war with them, so they used suicide bombs rockets and so forth. As this situation goes along this war have made some people rich and has become an industry both inside Israel and Palestinians. Money spending (specially in Israel) has been huge and continue to grow. Their intellegent activities (Mossad) is one of the best in the world, but again big chunk of money have made some people/corporation rich. if the war stop, so does the money. Go figure....




Your argument seems to indicate that you think that Isreal faces no threat from it's neighbors. Maybe the reason they have to sink so much money into intel and defense is because they are surrounded by a population who thinks genocide is peachy.
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Now Mossad as their "CIA", is so big and powerfull it becomes the government inside the Israely government. They need to secure their interest as well. Why do you think the Prime minister (forgot the name) who have sealed a pecae deal with PLO before suddenly die? Then the other one (Forgot the name as well) suddenly become ill and was resigned?. Again, Go figure....

Now the Politics of US and Israel. With US occupying Iraq US has made Israel life alot easier and shifting the balancec of power in Middle east. Now the force of Israel with political blessing from US can do more then before, so they creating a drama and create the havoc around. Remember the peace aggreament between Israel and Hizbullah( political party in israel who win election) has been progressing tremendously, as they have aggreed to acknowledge some of their basic principle that made them go to war for a long period of time. But then the war started. Go figure...




It takes a unique frame of mind to observe Hezballah and Hamas both staging attacks on the Israelies, killing and kidnapping their soldiers, and then somehow twisting that into some devious plot on the part of the 'joooos'.

Myself, I think the situation is pretty straight forward. The Palastinian Authority by way of Hamas, committed an Act of War against Isreal, and they responded in force to justifiably defend themselves. Iran/Syria/Hezbollah thought they saw an opportunity to attack Isreal while they were busy in Gaza, and they committed their own separate Act of War. Again, Isreal takes steps to defend itself.

Their is no hidden agenda here. The moral is clear. If you pick a fight with your neighbor, you just might get your dick knocked into the dirt.

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Hidden Agenda

With the pressure on Iran who is now in the proccess of having the nuclear technology, Israel and US has to made their move.



Bullshit - what did they do? Trick Hamas and Hezballah into attacking - this is nonsense.

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Invading Iran with US/UK alone would not guarantee victory. Now, with Israel making their move, its a possibility that they could somehow joint force to put pressure on Iran. As for Jordan, Israel has been wanting their land for long time (Oil resourcee and their religious believe/prediction of the future). I am sensing Israel wants a new map being drawn while in the process further weaken their enemy (Syria, Iran). As for the US, they basically willing to go along as long as everyone got something in return to secure their interest in the region.




I think, understandably, that Israel is tired of having it's citizens attacked by nutcases leaking over the border from Lebannon and Gaza, and is in the process of stomping the shit out of the people who are attacking them. What is so hard to understand about that?

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Now, there are no right or wrong in this matter as you see.
Everyone is defending their interest, while on the background the industrialist wants their money to keep pouring. There would never be Peace on middle east unless the balance of Power has been reached. The European community (minus British) have made their move but not that strong. China, and Russia have to put their feet wet if we want to see the balance restored. I am sure they have made some moved as Russia is the biggest weapon supplier for Iran, Syria and china get some of their oil and gas from them.

Ok, I write too much. I am sure ya'll get the point.



Oh, there is plenty of wrong going on here, and it pretty much rests with Hamas and Hezballah attacking Isreal. If they hadn't attacked Israel, none of this would be happening now. Actions have consequences, and right now they are getting their asses kicked, and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of terrorist rat bastards.

Fuck 'em.

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