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They need to secure their interest as well. Why do you think the Prime minister (forgot the name) who have sealed a pecae deal with PLO before suddenly die? Then the other one (Forgot the name as well) suddenly become ill and was resigned?. Again, Go figure....

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Israel, being surrounded by enemies was forced to "defend" them self as they see fit. How? First by making their neighbor poor and creating a chaos. They weaken their enemy economically to criple them. Remember, war capability is related to economic.

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On the other hand, Israel desperate enemy can not face an open war with them, so they used suicide bombs rockets and so forth. As this situation goes along this war have made some people rich and has become an industry both inside Israel and Palestinians. Money spending (specially in Israel) has been huge and continue to grow. Their intellegent activities (Mossad) is one of the best in the world, but again big chunk of money have made some people/corporation rich. if the war stop, so does the money. Go figure....

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Now Mossad as their "CIA", is so big and powerfull it becomes the government inside the Israely government. They need to secure their interest as well. Why do you think the Prime minister (forgot the name) who have sealed a pecae deal with PLO before suddenly die? Then the other one (Forgot the name as well) suddenly become ill and was resigned?. Again, Go figure....

Now the Politics of US and Israel. With US occupying Iraq US has made Israel life alot easier and shifting the balancec of power in Middle east. Now the force of Israel with political blessing from US can do more then before, so they creating a drama and create the havoc around. Remember the peace aggreament between Israel and Hizbullah( political party in israel who win election) has been progressing tremendously, as they have aggreed to acknowledge some of their basic principle that made them go to war for a long period of time. But then the war started. Go figure...

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Hidden Agenda

With the pressure on Iran who is now in the proccess of having the nuclear technology, Israel and US has to made their move.

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Invading Iran with US/UK alone would not guarantee victory. Now, with Israel making their move, its a possibility that they could somehow joint force to put pressure on Iran. As for Jordan, Israel has been wanting their land for long time (Oil resourcee and their religious believe/prediction of the future). I am sensing Israel wants a new map being drawn while in the process further weaken their enemy (Syria, Iran). As for the US, they basically willing to go along as long as everyone got something in return to secure their interest in the region.

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Now, there are no right or wrong in this matter as you see.
Everyone is defending their interest, while on the background the industrialist wants their money to keep pouring. There would never be Peace on middle east unless the balance of Power has been reached. The European community (minus British) have made their move but not that strong. China, and Russia have to put their feet wet if we want to see the balance restored. I am sure they have made some moved as Russia is the biggest weapon supplier for Iran, Syria and china get some of their oil and gas from them.

Ok, I write too much. I am sure ya'll get the point.

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The reason Israel has grown is that it's neighbors kept starting wars where they got their butts kicked, and the Israelies captured territories that they held as buffer zones against future agression. There would be no mideast conflict today if the Arab nations around Israel would stop attacking it.

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But that's never going to happen until Israel gives up control and claims on the Occupied Territories (which isn't going to happen).

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But that's never going to happen until Israel gives up control and claims on the Occupied Territories (which isn't going to happen).

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There is not much incentive for Israel to give up that control since their neighbors never honor their agreements anyway.

For example, Israel withdraws from Gaza and abandons it's settlements there. Hamas promptly moves in and fires rockets from and stages terrorist incursions from Gaza.

Israel pulls back from positions in Lebannon, relying on UN resolutions that guarentee that Hezballah will disarm and that the Lebaneese Army will take control of southern Lebanon to ensure the peace. UN Peace Keepers (HAH!) are even deployed. Now, years later, Hezballah has 10000 rockets poised to strike at Israel, and fire from positions near UN outposts, using the UN Peacekeepers as human shields to discourage retaliation.

I think Isreal is finally taking the correct course of action. If you want peace, you can have peace (Egypt and Jordan, for instance, do not have problems with Isreal because they do not permit attacks to take place from their counties against Isreal). However, if you attack Isreal, expect to have your nuts hammered into peanut butter.

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