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#89085 05/30/11 08:57 AM
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If you just seen this and knew nothing about the people that were doing this at a national monument, would you agree or disagree that they should be able to do this, and disrupt others trying to visit the monument?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI&feature=player_embedded

Now, to tell you who these people actually are. If you notice the first couple to get cuffs put on them. The guy had a code pink t-shirt on, and the female was none other than co-founder of code pink Medea Benjamin. Knowing these code pink asshats are nothing but anarchists who try to intentionally disrupt, do you agree they should have been arrested, Any other person would have been if they were warned not to do something at a national monument.

This wasn't the mall, or a park somewhere. It was a national monument where people take their families without having a bunch of dumbass's making an ass of themselves to get their name in the news. If they allowed people to do these things at national monuments, I can tell you I would never visit one. I wouldn't want to see a selfish fuckstick (or a group of them), messing with my time while I'm trying to go visit national monuments. I would have fucking tazed them.

On a side note, I read a tweet from a Tulsa reporter that was covering the Presidents visit to Joplin. The Inbreds from Westboro Baptist Church were going to be protesting in Joplin. It was never reported on the news from what I heard. Apparently the reporter was told by a Missouri Highway Patrolman that they had to use tear gas on the Westboro folks. If this is true, they need to give medals to those MHP.

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Watched the video.

Typically, in that situation the cops would just escort them off the premises after they started dancing, and cite park regulations.

If they persisted, then would write ticket them with a fine.

I am no fan of Code Pink, but they won that PR battle. They would have had nothing to "show" had the cops escorted them off, then fined them, then arrested them.

The cops overstepped their authority, and acted like people who were over-reacting because they do not like Code Pink message. The cops fell into their trap, so I cant really say that I approve of their actions.


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/agree with Derid.


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Everyone has the right to protest, and I have no beef with people protesting whatever their agenda(except those Westboro church inbreds). Just because people have the right to protest doesn't make it right to protest anywhere you want to. I don't think of national monuments as sacred ground, I think of it more respecting other people that are there to see the monument without incident.

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Sure, I did not say the cops should leave them totally alone. Faceplanting people because you dont like them isnt cool either though.

Like I said, should have just escorted em off premises ,then given em fines, then faceplanted em. Instead of just faceplanting em.

The idiot Code Pink folk got exactly what they wanted- pictures of cops roughing up people just for ticking off cops.

That doesnt mean I dont think the Pink fuckers werent being asshats... even though I cant say how they were doing anything to bother the other tourists either. Maybe that part wasnt shown, but out of what was shown - was just a few people acting dumb. Honestly ive seen groups of people acting silly around parks and monuments before....

If the cops ever even said anything, it was just to pipe down.


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What I saw was, The park police telling some d-bags to stop, if they didn't stop they would be arrested. Its not the cops fault they keep going. For fucksake how many time does a cop need to say stop before he puts your ass on the ground. Even the d-bag that would dance when the cops where not looking was told several times to stop.

If they would have done this outside the on the steps they most likely wouldn't of had a problem, less the fact they didn't have a permit.

They all should have been arrested for dancing in public while white.

FYI this is where Martin Luther King protested, but he was smart enough to get a permit and he wasn't allowed inside.

Just because it is a national or public area doesn't mean you get to do what you want.

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To quote our illustrious leader, "I don't have all the facts...but its clear the police acted stupidly."


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The Officers did not over step their boundaries. The office explained to them what would happen if they continued to demonstrate, and gave them a warning. The first couple continued directly in front of the officer, therefore they get hooked up for disturbing the peace.

The one in the brown shirt who actively pulled the one in the white shirt away after he was told to place his hands behind his back. He should have been charged with resisting an officer, obstruction, and disturbing the peace.

The guy in the white shirt with jeans should have been charged with resisting and disturbing the peace. Once the officers gave loud verbal commands for his hands, and he did not give them to him causing the officer to perform a takedown in order to get his hands, he actively resisted.

The reason for the disturbing the peace charges, you are supposed to file for a permit in order to have a demonstration, these people did not.

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I dont think it warranted the response. I think it could have been handled differently. The first cop was a douche bag for sure, but I do agree that inside a memorial is not a place to goof off or protest.


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The officers did right. People seem to forget that in the US you have FREEDOM WITH RESPONSIBILITY.

I promise you if that would have happened in Texas the cops would not have been there until after those people were beaten. You act like an asshat then prepare to be treated like an asshat.


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