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Originally Posted By: Kaotic

Hell, Ted Kennedy left MA for FL so fast that it took a couple of days for the media to figure out where he'd gone. Why you ask? Because under MA's socialized healthcare he couldn't pay enough, even though he's like a king there, to get the treatment he needed for his cancer. If he'd not been able to fly to Florida he'd be DEAD.


You posted this and two days later Ted Kennedy died. You sir killed Ted Kennedy.




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I think I went to a luncheon last week in celebration... cool


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Originally Posted By: Crimthan
I think I went to a luncheon last week in celebration... cool


Ditto.




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I highly recommend watching Frontline's "Sick around the world" and "Sick around America."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundamerica/view/
It's also on Netflix if you have that.

MA's healthcare is kind of a failure because they didn't do ENOUGH! Guaranteed issue insurance simply doesn't work unless there is also a lot of other regulation to go with it. You need to both mandate that all citizens participate (spreading the burden of cost evenly) and heavily regulate the unnecessary profits the health industry can make, especially though reduced administrative costs and collective pharmaceutical bargaining.

So what's really interesting about Obama's drive for health care reform is that I believe it's primarily driven by economics. Our country is going to go bankrupt funding Medicare in this health environment within my lifetime.

Unfortunately, collective pharmaceutical bargaining has already been thrown out the window by Obama, in an attempt to just get everyone to get together and start talking about it. My prediction is that his plan will be SO COMPROMISED in the end that it won't meet the cost reduction target, and it will fail because it "costs too much." This is exactly what the insurance companies want, because their profits are the first thing to go if he succeeds.

And the 9 trillion? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/business/economy/26deficit.html

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This is what i believe

1. I believe in a balanced budget and therefore will vote for a freeze in government spending until that goal is realized.

2. I believe government should not increase the financial burden on its citizenry during a difficult economic times, therefore I will oppose all tax increases until our economy has rebounded.

3. I believe more than four decades of US dependence on foreign oil is a travesty, therefore I will support an energy plan that calls for immediately increasing usage of all domestic resources including nuclear energy, natural gas and coal as necessary.

4. I believe in the sovereignty and security of our country and therefore will support measures to close our borders except for designated immigration points so we will know who is entering and why. I will vehemently oppose any measure giving another country, the United Nations, or any other entity power over US citizens.

5. I believe the United States of America is the greatest country on earth and therefore will not apologize for policies or actions which have served to free more and feed more people around the world than any other nation on the planet.




That came from Glenn Beck like him or love him the guy hit it on the money with these pledges.


CNN,ABC,NBC,MSN hide the truth There not even talking about CZARS or what is really on that healthcare bill.


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If u want something that was over 40 years ago in 1960 by ronald reagan. Listen to this it sums us up today more then 40 years almost 50. Ronald reagan was to me a great president and possibly one of the greatest politician remember he said this before most of us were even born.

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If the US drastically changes its healthcare system the whole world will suffer. Legal Drugs are cheaper the world over BECAUSE the US pays for it.


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Originally Posted By: Kay
Originally Posted By: Crimthan
I think I went to a luncheon last week in celebration... cool


Ditto.


Poor form. Slow cancer deaths should only be wished on groups of 6 that jump you.


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