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The first shots of free speech wars were fired, the despicable slime ball and conspiracy nutter Alex Jones was deplatformed by all social media. This highlights the need to regulate social media as a virtual public square. If people like Alex Jones are not free to spew their hate, then nobody has freedom of speech.


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A very good article summarizing on-going battles.

The dangers of illiberal liberalism


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I find it so unfortunate that even the ACLU has fallen so low, as they were once a great inspiration. Their principled defense of speech and other civil rights across the board, regardless of what someone was saying, or who/what they were, and the accompanying logic behind it, was deeply influential on me in my formative years. It's every bit as disappointing as the NRA failing to stand up for the gun rights of people like Philando Castile (who was lawfully carrying a firearm and shot by police for being black)

That both lobbies have become in-group purveyors of tribalism, abandoning their previous stances on defending the rights of everyone based on principles, shows just how much our national culture has deteriorated.


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As predicted, in just short few years this escalated into social media platforms censoring doctors discussing medical treatments.


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Shocking recount of social media meddling in US elections by suppressing Hunter Biden laptop story, that have been verified and proven to be accurate. Glenn Greenwald explaining in detail.

What only few years back started as banning of Alex Jones is now naked partisan excercise of power.


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You are using another companies platform to express your views. You are at the whims of the parent company, who are exercising their rights to have the content they want on their site. Don't like it? Make your own platform.

And what's this about new proof? And the website you link is literally less than a paragraph containing no additional material to corroborate their claim.

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I can clearly see that you have not watched the video (for whatever reasons) where Glenn Greenwald spent more than an hour deep-diving into specifics and timelines. Yes, we live busy lives and you might not know or care to know who is Glenn Greenwald, but if you are going to respond asking for evidence, at least take care to not do so directly in reply to post providing such evidence.

Just to give you some jump points:

4:00 mark - discusses 'big guy' email
8:30 mark - discusses 'Russian disinformation' letter
13:20 mark - discusses Andy Stone's (of Twitter) ties to Democratic Party
40:25 mark - discusses Twitter url blocking New Your Post article
57:00 mark - discusses editorial censoring of Glenn's articles in the Intercept


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Considering I'm a journalist that works for CBS News, I think I know who he is.

And you're right I didn't watch the video. I don't have an hour to devote to clickbait ledes and mediocre journalism. If the Author couldn't be damned to give a summation of the video, I'm certainly not going to devote my off time to it. This whole thing is nothing more then political porn devised to froth the right up into a circle jerk frenzy.

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And before you go too far into this because I'm likely not to reply much after this. I just don't really see the issue here. Other than the emails being real and the bidens never denying the laptop was Hunters, there is absolutely no proof Biden had met anyone.

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Originally Posted by Goriom
...there is absolutely no proof Biden had met anyone.

At best, you could say that there is no definitive proof that Joe Biden acted on this and abused his office. To me, Hunter Biden selling influence isn't the main story. Suppression of factual and accurate New York Post reporting is the much bigger issue. This is far, far beyond banning fringe crazies like Alex Jones. You have a major newspaper deplatformed only 2 short years after Alex Jones.

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I just don't really see the issue here.

I am rather surprised that you do not have any problems with social media suppressing journalism for political purposes. Bad actors claiming without evidence that a politically damaging story is misinformation, no worse - foreign propaganda, and then preventing people from sharing it is nothing short of a scandal. To put it bluntly - Twitter and Facebook suppressed legitimate story from a major news outlet to provide Biden advantage.

How could we have a free society when information is gatekeeped in this way? How can we have free elections when digital communications filtered this way?

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I think I know who he is.

In that case, the only reason you would not listen to what Glenn has to say is to intentionally remain uniformed. As his past work is definitive proof that he has integrity and his words have merit you cannot outright dismiss it as clickbait.

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