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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
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I am picking the lessor of two evil in my opinion. Going Hillary.


The lesser of two evils would be Gary Johnson.


Agreed. Watched CNN interview with him last night, surprisingly and disappointingly he was downplaying his libertarian creed to gain broader appeal.

Especially cringe-worthy was a question from audience on regulating food to fight obesity, and he didn't slam back on it at all and danced around by suggesting he likes to eat healthy and supports clear labeling.

While he is still preferable to Trump or Hillary, I am now less enthused.


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Melania might be illegal immigrant. I hate politics going after family, especially when Trump himself are very clearly such broad target.


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Originally Posted By: Sini
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I am picking the lessor of two evil in my opinion. Going Hillary.


The lesser of two evils would be Gary Johnson.


Agreed. Watched CNN interview with him last night, surprisingly and disappointingly he was downplaying his libertarian creed to gain broader appeal.

Especially cringe-worthy was a question from audience on regulating food to fight obesity, and he didn't slam back on it at all and danced around by suggesting he likes to eat healthy and supports clear labeling.

While he is still preferable to Trump or Hillary, I am now less enthused.


Gary Johnson has never been a great off-the-cuff speaker or debater. I wish he was, but he just isn't.

On the other hand, I will give him credit for maintaining some campaign discipline. He knows that there is a large media segment that wants to take something out of context, or overplay it and give him the Jill Stein anti-vaxxer treatment.

It's not that he couldn't handle some of those questions - such as the food regulation - better, but not giving a response that could be straw-manned up into a Libertarian-Somalia attack is already doing pretty good, all things considered.


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This shit just got real, Majority GOP can't seem to manage to repeal ACA.


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Considering how shitty the "replacement" was, I'm not sure that's a terrible thing.


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Derid, but we all know ACA is communism.


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That legislation was a continuation of much of Obamacare, not a repeal, which is why it failed.


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Because Republicans have been lying for 7 years now and actually don't know how to govern since they are the party of true obstructionism

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It's not that simple. My Senator, Mike Lee, was very serious about repeal and opposes efforts to slap a bandaid on Obamacare. He is faithfully representing his constituents in Utah. Other Republicans in other states may well be faithfully representing their constituents as well by supporting current legislation.

When it comes to federal legislation, it isn't always Republicans and Democrats, or liberals and conservatives. Sometimes it's Utah and Wyoming against Vermont and California. That's why we have a federal system, and why local politics sometimed overrules national politics.


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Any now they can't even get the votes to repeal. They did it when they knew that Obama would veto it, now they won't vote for it. The original repeal votes were clearly just an exercise in manipulating the voters to vote for them one more time.


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