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Our General Order may not spell out like they have but it's there for people to read. Discussion leads to arguments sometime. As long as it's constructive and doesn't get personal there's nothing wrong with it. I urge everyone to keep that in mind.
General Order 1: "Thou shalt uphold and abide by the ideals our Nation was built upon"

KGB Citizens have been striving to present themselves as honorable, respectable, and chivalrous since 1997. In the beginning, we came together to combat those whose existence was based on ruining the gaming experience for others. Over time we have evolved, but a basic idea and code remains. Respect both your fellow Citizens, Friends, and Foes alike whenever possible. Problems will occur and tempers will flare. Help solve the problems with calm discussion and be respectful to others if possible. Some of our foes may not deserve this respect, but do your best to offer it. Always try to respect these ideals and the many members who came before you. Always consider your nations reputation that we all have worked hard to maintain since 1997. It was this bond that brought us all together and keeps us strong.

The following policy will be enforced by the KGB Federal Faction and Supreme Court in accordance with Article 4, Section 1, of the KGB Constitution: KGB citizens will treat each other with honor and respect and never take part in Personal Harassment. What is harassment? It is repeated, intrusive or unwanted acts, words or gestures that are intended to adversely affect the safety, security or privacy of another, regardless of the relationship between the actor and the intended target. Harassment is further defined as "engag(ing) in intentional conduct which the actor harasser knows or has reason to know would cause the victim, under the circumstances, to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated; and causes this reaction on the part of the victim.

Humor and joking are ok, and you should be sure to let someone know if you are not comfortable. It is no longer considered joking if you are made to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated. Make sure you always respect your fellow citizens.

If you feel you have been the victim of harassment, first send a private message to the actor and let them know you were offended. If the behavior continues, file a KGB Supreme Court Conduct report and allow the system to protect you. Retaliation for submitting a Conduct Report will never be tolerated, and may result in dismissal from KGB.

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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
The inability for one group of people to run a faction has nothing with what is happening now.
You are talking about something you dont even play.

Node wars requires a massive amount of people in one guild or as we have several smaller guilds working together.

Some people are not good with working together and needed to quit the game.

No hard feelings we are having a great time.


Whoa whoa whoa.. Inability to run the faction? First of all, we didn't even have a faction to run. We had the officers who tried to organize xp groups, get people gear etc. and then we had almost everyone else who were in the game, but didn't actually want to play. Just about every day I would ask (multiple times) for people to group up and I'd get 1 maybe 2 responses. The group always ended up being the same with only the officers in it. We tried to get the faction going, but we had almost zero effort from our members. It didn't feel like a guild to me.

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Originally Posted By: Niru Suto
Originally Posted By: Helemoto
The inability for one group of people to run a faction has nothing with what is happening now.
You are talking about something you dont even play.

Node wars requires a massive amount of people in one guild or as we have several smaller guilds working together.

Some people are not good with working together and needed to quit the game.

No hard feelings we are having a great time.


Whoa whoa whoa.. Inability to run the faction? First of all, we didn't even have a faction to run. We had the officers who tried to organize xp groups, get people gear etc. and then we had almost everyone else who were in the game, but didn't actually want to play. Just about every day I would ask (multiple times) for people to group up and I'd get 1 maybe 2 responses. The group always ended up being the same with only the officers in it. We tried to get the faction going, but we had almost zero effort from our members. It didn't feel like a guild to me.


An Open Faction is a Faction. We were and are running the KGB tag.
Not everyone can play at the same time or can group up in a game this complicated when you ask.

Inability? yes are you still playing or running it. Then it is a failure on the leaders.

This is not personal for me but I am sick of feeling like the old players that quit on us are coming here and attacking us for their failure.

We are having alot of fun in this game and to have you come shit on it makes it hard for us to get more people to play with us.

If you dont play you don't need to comment on our game.

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Okay folks, I did put a lock on this discussion as there was too much negative going on here – let's focus on discussion regarding KGB's participation in BDO moving forward and how to deal with the challenges of an OPEN Faction given our Constitution and rules.

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That being said, after talking with the Officers of the BDO faction we would like to continue to operate as an open faction to play the game that we are enjoying with our KGB members. We feel that the issues that surround the semantics of KGB on KGB combat can be resolved by adhering to the following:

1) As there is not a way to participate in the end-game content of Node Wars and Sieges without having numbers and a guild structure that supports this; KGB members have dropped tag and reformed under Lethality (currently). Members wishing to play with us are strongly encouraged to play with us under this structure, but are not under any obligation to do so as this is an Open Faction currently.

2) If a KGB member wants to play BDO but NOT with the group, or wants to leave the group for another guild they will be required to let me (or whomever is HC of BDO Faction) know via Oracle PM. They will need to let us know where they are joining to help prevent open world non-consensual PVP.

3) Participation in Node Wars or Sieges IS considered consensual PVP. You may opt to participate or not based on your own choice. You may face a KGB brother or sister in the playing field, but as long as #2 is adhered to there will be no surprises on the battlefield.

4) Open-World PVP via actively flagging PVP or by war declaration does NOT give any players consent and will be considered a breach of KGB rules. KGB members will need to opt out of these confrontations, and can not partiticipate in KGB on KGB PVP as this violate the rules.

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Honestly it is my hope that more KGB membership decides to give BDO a chance. This will allow the Open Faction to be able to grow and eventually become a Closed faction (reforming under the KGB tag). We cannot do this without support and numbers. I have played many games with KGB over the decade of my membership, and quite honestly this game is the closest match in "feel" to playing Ultima Online on Siege Perilous! BDO certainly isn't an EASY game, but it does offer a lot for casual as well as competitive players. We do need to be mindful that our membership has both types and should be comfortable for them to co-exist.

Currently we have a superb staff of officers and players that would be thrilled to have more players join and be happy to help you learn to play BDO in the ways that you prefer. Let's quit fighting and being negative and focus on what everyone really wants, to play a game together online and have FUN doing it!


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"Any group is weaker than a man alone unless they are perfectly trained to work together."
- Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers
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