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#132912 10/07/15 05:33 AM
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On this news article from The Escapist and this Derek Smart guy.

It does seem like he has a few points and makes me a bit skeptical. I hope its all false, for the games sake. Also the Reddit is blowing up about it.


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Chris has been notorious over the past decades for always ensuring he enriches himself personally through his projects, no matter how successful or not.

Frankly from a timing perspective, the best time for CR to have done something like this would have been in fiscal year 2014, before CIG filed its first tax statements with the IRS. This would have given him the window to make funds "disappear" before the company reported Earnings before Income Tax.

I don't believe or disbelieve the statements and accusations made by Smart. As is the way in the Social Court, it is for CR to disprove the accusations or choose to not address the statements. There was and is a lot of money floating around, who is to say that CR didin't write himself a sweetheart personal contract prior to the end of 2014 in which CIG is paying for all kinds of things in lieu of traditional normal income payments subject to traditional income tax. Now that it has come to light that CR's say Daughter is getting her 80k a year private school paid for by a Education program funded by CIG and his daughter is the sole beneficiary of the program.

Don't get me started on the potential of a sweet heart contract he could have given his brother over in the UK studio's once the dollars really started rolling in. There are any number of ways to pilfer coffers at an executive level that aren't against any tax code laws, but the common person goes ..WTF, he is embezzling!!

See: US House of Representatives and the US Congress and how PAC money is utilized. Same/Sa

Reddit SC Link - Good Read


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I haven't read anything about their daughter, I know they have had money. I mean the guy sold off a large successful company which he owned a majority of.

What erks me is why did they hide the fact that Sandi was his wife?

If you look at the executives now, it is mostly his family. What I would like to know is what their salaries are, probably never see that information though.

All in all it is a great idea and I hope they can pull it off. Financially I think they have enough funds, I mean they raised $90 million, and if necessary (may already) I am sure they can find investors, or fund through some type of lending.

The other question is, has the scope of the game gone to what may not even be possible at this point? I know that they can probably make the game to what they expect, but the concern I have is that I don't think the networking infrastructure that is currently in place can support what they want to do. I mean you can have all the servers in the world, but if client side cant download and upload all that information then the game is going to run like shit. And the level of detail that they want to put into these things is going to be a lot of information.

All I know is they better show their supporters something this weekend at citizencon, or this thing is going to really start blowing up in their face.

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Derek Smart is a bias jealous man who has been out against CR for years. On top of promoting his own game which has been in development on their forums. After he was refunded and rejected from pledging to Star Citizen he took it as a personal attack and is out to get CR.

Now as for the article even if the Article writers refuse to admit the source was Derek Smart. Also the site Glassdoor is a sham, anyone can register, say they work for CIG and post whatever they want. Plus it is ridiculous regarding the employees. Even if 5-7 employees were disgruntled that's only like 3% of the company. Just because it's crowd funded it's under much more scrutiny.

Now as far as CR, he does seem like a perfectionist and he has been gone from gaming for quite awhile, his last adventure was the Wing Commander movie, which I don't find too horrible. I can see there being management issues, you went from 10 ppl to over 260. I can see why people say it's a Pyramid scheme, obviously those who backed in early reap more rewards than those later on, but it was a risk and there are legal entities like this.

Now do I believe Derek Smart absolutely not. However, behind all his lies I'm sure there are some truths. It's not easy creating a culture under mass expansion and balancing the finances. I doubt though CR is embellishing his own companies finances, the guy like I said looks like a perfectionist and I highly doubt he will risk the chance for a game that could be one of the best ever in its genre for a couple extra million after tax hits. The game generates much more.

As far as Sandy, I'm shocked that they were married they hid that extremely well and I can see why people are pissed off and his brother isn't that talented. Not sure why he's even hired.

Citizen on is around the corner, the game is a year late so far and he has a lot of eyes on him. If he is in fact legit he needs to shape up the game status and start rolling out theMulticrew and the FPS. Lastly, give me my damn Idris.

P.S. Sorry for any grammar mistakes this wasn't easy writing on my phone.

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Bandit the entire Sandi thing has been a sore spot for a while in the Backroom. Once the White Knights and Super Nerds got over looking at tits and ass, they began to actually stop shouting down how Sandi was obviously pushing Wingman out and why it was happening. The inner circle of try hards absolutely refused to believe that there savior and god, Chris Roberts would succumb to vapid accusations that he put a woman in as the frontman because nerds are dumb and easy to cajole with the right set of assets. The accusations of Sandi being CR wife were removed from the back room as soon as anyone posted anything about it. There were actually several people who were High tier backers and who sub'd to the monthly article that got there community accounts locked for chiming in and requesting transparency. Mark my words, that decision to conceal the fact that Sandi is CR's wife is going to cause CIG more problems than it ever generated value.

The thing about CR kid and school was an example of how you get back sheet compensation when you are on a personal contract, not what actually transpired. The crux of the embezzling conversation was about CR house in LA, and yes CR had plenty of money prior to SC being funded out of control. Remember, CR always makes sure he gets his when it's his project, not matter its success or failure.



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Derek Smart is just upset that someone is trying to move on his turf. I guess there is no Honor Among Thieves in vaporware development.


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Just my opinion, I think the guy is a shit disturber. He has a history of it. Remember good lies have a hint of truth in them.

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I don't care so long as I get the game that I want

I am sad to say that the people at the top always seam to come out of any project richer than they went in even if the project fails.
CEO's , charity bosses ,politicians

the world is just not a nice place and as they say power corrupts

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when The Escapist stood by there story on Monday when faced with legal action is when I really got worried

my hopes now lie with the presentation on Saturday
hoping for real game play and a player roll out

scared all I will get is a demo that only works in house a new ship and a line of actors on stage who will be in the live action

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Yeah those are my thoughts too Instrument. They really need to show something this weekend, or they are in trouble. And it better not be another $900 ship sale.

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