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So who wants to bet that Jet & Sini would have lost their fucking minds if Dubya would have came out and said... " They will warn you Tyranny is around the corner, You should reject those voices" A fucking sitting President SAID THAT!

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Good thing British can carry guns, oh wait they can't. Good luck defending yourself against this!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/c...n-Woolwich.html

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Black Helicopters are coming to take away your guns Wolf!


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Originally Posted By: sini
Black Helicopters are coming to take away your guns Wolf!


I chalk this reply up to as, " I don't have anything else that I can say so I'll say something stupid" on your behalf.

It's OK to admit that if the public were to have guns that at least there could have been a chance that someone with a gun could have shot those mother fuckers before they beheaded the man.

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That not how it actually works Wolfgang, but we talked about this at length so you are clearly not open to internalizing the fact that armed civilians are extremely unlikely to stop any bad guys. They are by far more likely to blow their brains, accidentally shoot their own relatives and children and so on.

The only way "good guys with guns" could work is if you conscript and train every single man and women in the country, like Israel.


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Originally Posted By: sini
That not how it actually works Wolfgang, but we talked about this at length so you are clearly not open to internalizing the fact that armed civilians are extremely unlikely to stop any bad guys. They are by far more likely to blow their brains, accidentally shoot their own relatives and children and so on.

The only way "good guys with guns" could work is if you conscript and train every single man and women in the country, like Israel.

Even trained people mishandle weapons...besides the video below haven't you ever seen police shootouts in point blank range where several shots have been fired yet NOBODY was hit? Just so you know, in order to get a conceal carry permit you have to go to a class, where you have to prove you know how to handle and shoot a handgun. Oklahoma has an open carry law, but in order to be able to open carry a handgun you have to have a conceal carry license. Just some facts I'm sure you have no clue about. please continue...

Now onto the rest...
I would be willing to bet if someone that was present with a gun they would have done something, people that carry guns legally are usually those that will doing something in an event like this one. If you carry a gun and never plan to use it you are a fucking retard. If that were in a place where you could own a gun and carry one things wouldn't have went so well for that piece of shit that beheaded that guy. However if you were say, in Chicago where you cannot legally carry a gun the likely hood of something like this beheading being pulled off in public there would be high.

I just love how you think it's far better to have someone beheaded in front of you without having the right to protect yourself with a firearm because someone commits suicide or accidentally shoots someone. So does this mean we should ban other things that someone could use to commit suicide or accidentally kill someone? This would include cars, knives any blunt object... even bleach. So nest time you have a thought, just let it go.

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Getting beheaded in public is astronomically unlikely event, accidentally or maliciously discharging your legal weapon and causing injuries and fatalities is commonplace.

If you add guns to UK situation, you still have beheading, only now perps are armed and much harder to apprehend (e.g. Chicago).


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Its not commonplace. Far less commonplace per capita than vehicular related death by an order of magnitude.

Guys in UK did have gun apparently. Regular police showed up first and did nothing, until "armed police" were able to show up and shoot them. If you think guns or bombs are *hard to get in the UK you would be severely mistaken. They are less common, but even the criminals have less need for them. Most police arent even armed, let alone opposing citizenry.

UK is also has a far far higher rate of violent crime in general than the US.


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Originally Posted By: sini
Getting beheaded in public is astronomically unlikely event, accidentally or maliciously discharging your legal weapon and causing injuries and fatalities is commonplace.

If you add guns to UK situation, you still have beheading, only now perps are armed and much harder to apprehend (e.g. Chicago).


I'm going to pray for you Sini, I'm going to pray that you are never in a situation that you would need a gun to defend yourself or a loved one.

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