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Originally Posted By: sini
I have panic room


not sure why, but I could have guessed this.

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Thought of you Sinij, after reading this story.
Pay particular attention to the final sentence.



This kind of crap is why I have a CHL. This kind of crap
is why any police officer worth a damn will tell you not
only to obtain a CHL, but to carry it with you anytime you
go out and why I have one close by when at home.

They don't need a gun to keeeel jhou . . .


HOUSTON -- A Houston man has been charged with murder
for stabbing another man to death.

Houston police responded to a homicide at Broadway Street
and Morely Street in southeast Houston around 3:30 a.m.
Saturday.

Officials found the victim, Howard Rankins, dead at the scene.

Demarcus Moses, 27, has been charged with murder in
Rankins’ death.

Moses is expected to appear in Monday morning.

Court documents show Moses was convicted of the
felony Felon in Possession of a Weapon back in June of 2007.

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This is why the people that call for banning guns need to go FUCK THEMSELVES. Check out the video from England!



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That's how it's done you see . . .

You don't do it all at once, you do tiny pieces at a time.

A restriction here, a ban there, over time your entire right to
own a firearm is effectively whittled down to nothing.

Why we can't allow ANY sort of ban on ANY weapon is simple:


If you allow it once, this sets the precedence to allow it
again in the future. If we allow a ban on ( insert scary item
of the day here ) today, when the violence continues afterwards,
( and it most assuredly will ) they'll simply go after the next
scary item on the list. Wash, rinse and repeat.

In the end there will be nothing left to take.


I get a chuckle out of the gun manufacturers refusing to do
business with State governments if they adopt completely ridiculous
gun control laws. I fully agree with them.

If the law abiding citizens cannot own them, then neither should
law enforcement or government employees. If they protest that the
criminals will still have them so the police should too, then they
make my point perfectly. Gun laws don't impact criminals in the
slightest bit. The laws only serve to restrict legal owners.



You either stand up for your rights, or they will simply take them
from you. It's your choice.

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Originally Posted By: Daye
That's how it's done you see . . .

You don't do it all at once, you do tiny pieces at a time.

A restriction here, a ban there, over time your entire right to
own a firearm is effectively whittled down to nothing.

Why we can't allow ANY sort of ban on ANY weapon is simple:


If you allow it once, this sets the precedence to allow it
again in the future. If we allow a ban on ( insert scary item
of the day here ) today, when the violence continues afterwards,
( and it most assuredly will ) they'll simply go after the next
scary item on the list. Wash, rinse and repeat.

In the end there will be nothing left to take.


I get a chuckle out of the gun manufacturers refusing to do
business with State governments if they adopt completely ridiculous
gun control laws. I fully agree with them.

If the law abiding citizens cannot own them, then neither should
law enforcement or government employees. If they protest that the
criminals will still have them so the police should too, then they
make my point perfectly. Gun laws don't impact criminals in the
slightest bit. The laws only serve to restrict legal owners.



You either stand up for your rights, or they will simply take them
from you. It's your choice.


This. The only problem I see here Daye, is really simple. You're argument can make perfect logical sense, and it will still be ignored.

As someone new to long term relationships, I am just discovering the amazing way that arguments can happen over anything. I'm also learning that I could have a perfect, logical, well reasoned argument and "lose" because she says so.

Its the same in this arena. The two parties are like a married couple. Only now instead of only someone that's ignorant you have to deal with people who know and don't car, because there is no way a person with even just a high school education could think that any law at all could stop a criminal from hurting you.


STUBS!




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Hey folks, all I can say is that I am for universal background checks. Like I said before, it should be as hard to own a gun as it is to get a credit card or drive a car.

As many of you know, Reagan signed on to a note to the Congress way back in 1994. He is credited to helping pass the assault weapons ban. As a darling of the right, his ghost is undermining your position.

I am not a pro-ban person, but it sure is and interesting battle.

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To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives:
We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime.

Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47.

The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon.

While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons.

Sincerely,

Gerald R. Ford

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Originally Posted By: Daye

A restriction here, a ban there, over time your entire right to
own a firearm is effectively whittled down to nothing.


Daye, what is slippery slope fallacy for $200?

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Why we can't allow ANY sort of ban on ANY weapon is simple:




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Jet, background checks are one thing. You could check me all day and night and when you're done I'd expect my gun to be ready to go home with me. Checks aren't a problem. A limit, preventing someone from going from NY to Virginia and buying 15 pistols and coming back and reselling them on the street for triple the value to shady peoples would be welcome.

My problem is on bans. A criminal, by definition, doesn't give a fuck about what the gun laws are. If he wants to have an AK47 he can find a way to get one. The ONLY people that a ban hurts are the law-abiding citizens. Any law that is supposed to hinder crime but really just hinders my rights is a law I will fight.


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