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Originally Posted By: sini
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Yeah the Government would never do such a thing...


Wolfgang, they are coming for you. You better get your grab bag, pack your 20 guns and ammunition and run. You can winter at your uncle's moonshine shack in the hills.


Your attempt of humor fails, now go ahead and wash your mouth out with a revolver.

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I really wish you guys wouldn't say stuff like that because honestly, I have no idea if you're joking or not.

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Originally Posted By: Brutal
I really wish you guys wouldn't say stuff like that because honestly, I have no idea if you're joking or not.


For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)
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Originally Posted By: sini
Gun violence and gun murders is something I want to see reduced. I know that by keeping things as-is it won't happen. Mass shootings will keep happening.
Perhaps the right thing to do is just to model the federal laws after the laws in Connecticut, which are some of the most restrictive in the country. After all, those restrictive gun laws worked so well in Newtown...


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Holder pushes the court to stop the document release on gun-running scandal.


Oh the hypocrisy is just too much sometimes... They are pushing for gun control over a school shooting that resulted in 20 deaths while trying to cover up their illegal gun walking operation that killed over 300 innocent people.


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Originally Posted By: Brutal
I really wish you guys wouldn't say stuff like that because honestly, I have no idea if you're joking or not.


Threatening to piss on my grave is a long-standing tradition on this forum.

/shrug

Going forward, if you are joking add :) so we all know how to understand it.

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New gun laws are bad , because they were written badly. Simple enough for you to understand?

What does this statement have to do with your earlier assertion that gun laws would be guaranteed to be effective?


I never said anything like that, since you clearly misunderstood me I re-stated what I said in plainest possible language.


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Originally Posted By: Brutal
We already guard our politicians and movie stars, why not our children?


Because it is not practical to arm-guard everything of value from otherwise low probability threats, plus no matter how much effort you put into securing and guarding they have to succeed only once. Even presidents get shot, what chance does average person has?

Any given school is extremely unlikely to suffer a shooting. At the same time, school shootings on a national level are impossible to prevent. The only logical conclusion is to lessen impact of the shootings. Reducing deadliness of guns available to everyone is one approach to meet this goal.


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Originally Posted By: sini
it is not practical to arm-guard everything of value from otherwise low probability threats
why then are we putting so much focus on this instead of focusing on something that can have significant impact?
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Even presidents get shot, what chance does average person has?
and everytime they do we ramp up their security...


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Originally Posted By: sini
The only logical conclusion I can come up with is to lessen impact of the shootings. Reducing deadliness of guns available to everyone is one approach to meet this goal.
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