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Originally Posted By: sini
Gun nut equivalent to Amish movement. In 50-80 years they will get too inbred to hold a gun.


I don't think they mean to walk in and lock the doors, no one in or out type of community like the movie The Village.
I am sure they have to leave to do business outside the walls.
Communities like this seem like a good idea at first, and you would have to be an extremist to want to live in a place like this, but the limited mindset would get old after awhile.

This forum would get old without sini.

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This forum would get old without sini.


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How Guns And Violence Cost Every American $564 In 2010

We register cars and pay highway taxes via registration stickers and gas surtax. I think it is time to register guns and pay ammunition taxes.

As a gun owner, why do you expect others to pay for your harmful and socially expensive hobby?


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Originally Posted By: sini
How Guns And Violence Cost Every American $564 In 2010

We register cars and pay highway taxes via registration stickers and gas surtax. I think it is time to register guns and pay ammunition taxes.

As a gun owner, why do you expect others to pay for your harmful and socially expensive hobby?


Cars are a not a right.
Guns and ammunition are taxed.

Gun owners don't expect others to pay for their hobby, they pay for it themselves.

You think its a harmful and "socially expensive" (not even sure what that means). If you show me how the guns in my house are harmful to the general public I may consider your argument 1% reasonable.

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Originally Posted By: sini
We register cars and pay highway taxes via registration stickers and gas surtax.
How much of that money is spent on healthcare costs for vehicle related injuries?


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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
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How Guns And Violence Cost Every American $564 In 2010

We register cars and pay highway taxes via registration stickers and gas surtax. I think it is time to register guns and pay ammunition taxes.

As a gun owner, why do you expect others to pay for your harmful and socially expensive hobby?


Gun owners don't expect others to pay for their hobby, they pay for it themselves.


Not according to the Forbes article. Basic argument is that gun violence costs US taxpayers ~500$/year regardless if they own any guns or not. I think it is only fair that these costs be extracted only from gun-owning population.


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If you show me how the guns in my house are harmful to the general public I may consider your argument 1% reasonable.


Average gun owner is more likely to cause self-inflicted injury that injure an intruder. So you accidentally shooting yourself in the foot may result in taxpayer costs. These costs skyrocket when you consider taking guns out of your house.


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We register cars and pay highway taxes via registration stickers and gas surtax.
How much of that money is spent on healthcare costs for vehicle related injuries?
Vehicles are net gain for the economy even outside of manufacturing-sales aspect - transportation of good, people is undeniable gain. Our way of living will all but collapse if not for vehicles.

The same cannot be said for guns - outside of manufacture and sales they do not produce any meaningful economical input. Hunting for food being the only gun application that interfaces with economy and is negligible.


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Well, if guns are bad for society then I guess we should take them away from police and secret service as well.


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This is illogical conclusion.

Example - radiation exposure is bad for humans, so lets make xrays illegal.


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Well, you just said guns are bad so we should get rid of them. By your definition of good and bad, a $500 cost per taxpayer would be a negative outcome, making guns bad. Which is it?



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