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A eulogy for libertarian-tea party-christian right movement known as GOP in US politics.

Recently irrelevant conservative right did a number of positive things for the country. For one, they managed to push deficit reduction into mainstream politics. Not since before Reagan started deficit spending spree did the public understood that this process has severe downsides. As a result, we might be nearing the end of bubble-burst cycles. They also managed to sideline neocon chickenhawks, but sadly not in time to stop Bush disasters. With luck from now on we will see a lot less wars. Just for these two great achievements they will be missed dearly.

The departed also demonstrated that politicians still have to consider will of the people. By crashing GOP party going full speed into ideological wall they will restore much needed pragmatism and spirit of cooperation (right after next election cycle). They also demonstrated that you can only delay reality, but not entirely rewrite it; and that the dark power of epistemic closure demands constant blood sacrifices, and eventually you run out of offerings.

Last but not least, they demonstrated that the culture wars are finally over (and they lost and there is no turning back the clock), we can all go home to progressive society that is more accepting that ever before of individual differences.

For all of these we should be grateful. So lets lift a drink and talk only well of politically irrelevant permanent minority GOP.

Boehner taps Dems to push budget deal across finish line

Boehner had to ask Nancy for help. It will probably cost him speakership, but he likely saved US from default. Until January.

62 percent of House Republicans oppose deal

Majority of House Republicans are unfit to govern.

Your ignorance of the constitution knows no bounds. The United States of American is constitutionally bound to pay its debts. Other things may not get paid for, and I'm sure this administration will make them as painful as possible (as they've shown they are want to do), but the simple fact is we cannot default until our debt gets so high that our tax income can no longer keep up.

That's so cute, you think Boehner and Pelosi don't regularly work together with Obama behind the scenes.

The fact that despite all the information I have seen you absorb here, your worldview still revolves around the false left-right dichotomy explains why your views on this issue are so off-kilter.

No it isn't left-right, it is US vs. biblethumpers and anarchist that want to tear fabric of society.

You're still making arguments (since this is what passes for an argument on your side) that have been refuted without rebutting the refutation. Who's the ideologue now?

I can visualize you on a street corner, foaming at the mouth ranting and raving, yelling this over and over and over...

I can visualize you on a street corner yelling this non-stop over and over, foaming at the mouth.

I think attitude Sini shares is why zombies are such a staple of popular culture these days. Billionaires pop a a few million in the media machine when their agenda for the rest of us gets challenged, DailyKosers respond by going vapid , extending their arms and howling to eat the brains of the Establishment enemies.

On a subconscious level, most people get it.