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Robots Could Put Humans Out of Work by 2045

Now cut this freeloading humanity of the dole and kick them to the curb.

Anyone would like me to connect the dots and spell out unemployment and wealth inequality implications of this trend?

Please try.

Its kind of funny. Several hundred years ago, even a couple thousand - people said the same things.

Did you know that the steam engine was actually invented during the Roman era? It was not pursued because the work it would have done, was done by slaves - so whats the point?

Concept that economy self-restructures where not forcibly prevented from doing so is apparently lost on many people for some reason.

Did you know, that 98% of humanity used to work on the farm - that it required that much of the population to work in agriculture so everyone could be fed? Of course now, its only around 2%... and everyone else is of course unemployed, left with nothing to do.... amirite?

Yes, steam engine and industrial revolution is a good analogy, so don't forget to include poverty, forced urbanization, and social turmoil that resulted from it.

I have hard times believing that we could all find work writing apps and/or in sales&marketing if robotization takes off. Our current social net system is unprepared to deal with consequences of this.

Didn't know about steam engine and Romans. Reference?

Impossible, robot utopia is far in the future, and mankind will always find a way to work until then. Lets not forget the 3rd world countries that cant afford to buy all the shiny robots.
Robot utopia will take hundreds of years to come about in a slow replacement of human work force, which will include colonization of space, and yet humans will still have jobs.

Humans have never been perfect. There are always issues. Just, finding new things to do after old tasks become obsolete has never been one. At least on a macro scale over time - macro displacement is temporary.

As for the Roman steam engine, I suggest google - was something I read about in college , current references I could conjure are going to be the same ones you conjure by typing "roman steam engine" in your browser.

Isnt robots making everything and the end of capitalism where the whole Zeitgeist thing ends up heading?

I always think of the Eloi...

Implications of large degree of robotization is that society as it exists today, with a current flavor of capitalism, would not possible.

A portion of wealth will have to be redirected toward sustaining now unproductive segment of society that was displaced by robots. In other words, a nanny state that most of you use as a boogeyman.

How do you think US will look like with DOW at 200,000 (present day dollars) and 50% unemployment?

If there is 50% unemployment, it will be because govt has made it impossible to create/do work.

You seem to believe that just because what some people currently do will be replaced, that they will be incapable of doing anything else of value.

I honestly cant understand that.

Though I do think it might be the case that we develop a much larger "shadow economy" where a great portion of economic activity goes "off the books".

Re: Romans and Slave Labor

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239354/Immigration_reform_may_spur_software_robotics

Derid, I wish I lived in your simple world where every problem is caused by Government intervention.