Originally Posted By: Kaotic
Originally Posted By: sini
Part of the domain dispute is the supporter's list and website infrastructure.
I think you're confused here bud. The email list and infrastructure were part of the deal that the current owners offered. It didn't say anywhere that Paul is seeking those in this dispute. It's entirely possible that he doesn't want that stuff, that he only wants the domain name.


QFT

Part of what I found utterly amazing was that they tried to "sell" Ron a list they had gathered by using his likeness. It would be hard to imagine a scenario where there were many names that Ron would not have already had on his own lists.... and even harder to imagine that many that were not ... were missing from Ron's list because they thought they were already ON Ron's list having signed up for "Ron Paul dot com" - replete with pictures and quotes etc from.... Ron Paul. Hence the contesting of domain.

Sinij is probably also unaware that rules regarding politicians and those regarding simple "celebrities/corporations of public interest" are quite different. Which is unsurprising given that he thinks that a ICANN dispute (That is: Internet Corporation for Assignment of Names and Numbers for any readers not familiar with the org) is even possible to include things like server hardware, or other damages is quite telling in this regard.

(note: registering a politicians or political candidates name, is typically protected political speech. Whether you say good or bad things about them. Ron could not have filed any dispute likely to succeed as a Congressman. The system is set up so officeholders and candidates cant appropriate domains containing their name for good reason. Additionally, as a recently former pol, Ron *probably* would not have, and would not have had a terribly strong case had the site owners in fact not tried to charge such an obscene amount of money above and beyond their out of pocket expense, in large part publicly *justified* by the very fact that they used Ron's name and likeness to accrue significant monetary value in the form of mailing lists, etc. Using a high profile name for political speech - totally allowed and protected under rules and legal precedent, using a high profile name/likeness to infer endorsement of, and thereby monetarily gain is considered bad faith under ICANN rules and a big no-no /note)

ICANN manages... Internet names and numbers. It has zero authority to award material damages. It can however, assign IP blocks and domain names.

But as we all know by now, Sinij speaking in authoritative tone and language and making pronouncements about things he knows absolutely nothing about is to be expected.

For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)