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You got enough straw going on there to get an army going, less one strawman. What I find grotesque is unwillingness to support any and all social programs, yet willingness to extensively donate to support political campaigns based on one issue. This isn't question of a wrong cause, but question of misplaced priorities.

As to your attempted "civil liberties" smear - lol @ you.

You said: "In my dynamic society doesn't devolve because my view depends on people being locally socially responsible. For proof that my idea works you need only look at our history before 1960."

I provided tons of historical examples "before 1960" where people are NOT acting in locally socially responsible way.

Your attempt at trolling is pretty sad.

Pretty sure I stated I believe in social programs to an extent. Just not to the extent YOU want them. I don't call that "UNWILLING" to support social programs. I call that tough love, because once you give people everything they need. They will simply make a career of living off the Government (TAX PAYERS)

Also I donate MY money that I make however the fuck I want. That's the way it should be. Because I have FUCKING TAXES taken out of my check each week that already donate's my money before I even get to see it. So much for being unwilling to donate to social programs aye!

I don' think this is going anywhere...

For the record:

1. National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) provisions on detention are appalling and anyone caught voting for it should be tossed out of the office once and for all.

2. Donating to defeat NDAA is a good cause

3. Generally speaking, social issues should be prioritized over political issues, but bringing this point in context of 1. and 2. set argument down the wrong path.

You can always find some people who are not responsible, that's why the rest of us have to be. Most people though, given the opportunity will help their neighbors in need.