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Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Wolfgang #92915 09/26/11 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6 Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction
Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6	I like pies. Don't make me have'ta Troll ya Bro!

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Wolfgang #92917 09/26/11 06:09 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal	Originally Posted By: Wolfgang Originally Posted By: Mithus Originally Posted By: Vuldan HAHAHA..Mithus, you funny communist boy..it does not work that way. God existed before anything, everything exists because of God. Get with the program. Heathens...sheesh I�m socialist old man, comunism never existed, you americans think that thing on USSR was comunism, it was not, that was a corrupted capitalism of state. as the question who created God, I�m just using the logic like you guys are using to explain God.. WOW Wolfgang wokeup and joined the discussion! just kidding, but the bold text is nothing something that I invented. *Communism, in the scientific sense of a classless society, has never existed, on USSR there was two class the government party class and people class at least.. and about capitalism of state argument in a simple concept is when your government control all production.. Last edited by Mithus; 09/26/11 06:19 PM. Animal Ethics: "I tremble for my species when I reflect that god is just." Thomas Jefferson.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Mithus #92918 09/26/11 06:16 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight
Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Watch the Video I posted Mithus... especially pay attention around the 5:20 minute mark. From there on it continually gets worse. So pay attention.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Tasorin #92919 09/26/11 06:18 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA	Originally Posted By: Tasorin As a freshman in High School I took AP Biology. The instructor for the lab and the class was a Nun. She had the best answer for the balance of science and religion I have ever heard, and it changed the way I look at religious and scientific philosophy since that day. The conversation arose during a discussion on ameba and protozoa. Someone in the class asked the Nun (Sister Margret), how someone like her who is of the cloth, can teach something like evolution, when creationism as taught by the Holy Roman Church is in direct contrast. Her answer sums it up best. She told us that she believed both were true at there core. That a reasonable educated person could not disagree with the cold truth and facts of science that clearly showed the relative chain effects that drive evolution. That as well, evolution is not by chance, it is by design. Therefore if evolution is by design, then whose design is it by? That is where the metaphorical "God" entered the equation. It was by God's design that evolution took place and the outcome has resulted in bi-pedal humans. Chomp on that for a moment... Did Tas just ramble on for 2 minutes and then manage to make the Intelligent Design theory sound unintelligent?

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Wolfgang #92921 09/26/11 06:34 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal	Originally Posted By: Wolfgang Watch the Video I posted Mithus... especially pay attention around the 5:20 minute mark. From there on it continually gets worse. So pay attention. What is Communism? science vs. bullshit Scientific definition: A classless society with no exploitation. No state machine used by one section of the population to oppress another section. No need for professional armies or police forces. No use of production for profit or exchange. Society runs in accord with the principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Bullshit definition (ie: commonly believed--but WRONG) Rule of society by a single party which maintains a monopoly of political power and suppresses all opposition. Control of the economy via centralized bureaucratic planning. Examples of bullshit definition: the former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, etc. Animal Ethics: "I tremble for my species when I reflect that god is just." Thomas Jefferson.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Mithus #92922 09/26/11 06:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,526 Likes: 1 Nebraska,Omaha Helemoto KGB Supreme Knight
Helemoto KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,526 Likes: 1 Nebraska,Omaha	a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs direct for the oxford dictionary, there is no scientific definition as its not science Yours sounds more like utopia Last edited by Helemoto; 09/26/11 06:43 PM.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Helemoto #92923 09/26/11 06:49 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal	Originally Posted By: Helemoto Yours sounds more like utopia that�s right scientific comunism from Marx is most like a utopia, no ever existed.. I�m going to put an example that I found on web about USSR that is simple: What happened to Lenin's 1917 revolution? The most well-known attempt at working class rule (ie: Lenin's October 1917 revolution) was eventually suffocated and degenerated into a single party regime that ruled like feudal lords and suppressed all serious opposition (ie: a police state where a single organization enforced a monopoly on political thought and activity). USSR would only be classified as a degenerated form of socialism.. Last edited by Mithus; 09/26/11 06:53 PM. Animal Ethics: "I tremble for my species when I reflect that god is just." Thomas Jefferson.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Mithus #92924 09/26/11 07:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6 Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court
Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6	The destiny of all attempts at communism or socialism are inherently doomed to degeneration. This is why many of us despise them. They sound good, but achieving that utopian vision is simply impossible. Trying results either in USSR, North Korea, or Greece. For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Derid #92927 09/26/11 07:54 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Mithus KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,143 Algarve, Portugal	Originally Posted By: Derid The destiny of all attempts at communism or socialism are inherently doomed to degeneration. This is why many of us despise them. They sound good, but achieving that utopian vision is simply impossible. Trying results either in USSR, North Korea, or Greece. You need to get used to comunism, when you going to meet God on heaven, what do you think that are you going to experimt for eternity, capitalism or comunism? again, i�m joking. Last edited by Mithus; 09/26/11 07:57 PM. Animal Ethics: "I tremble for my species when I reflect that god is just." Thomas Jefferson.

Re: Make JetStar a believer... A Challenge Mithus #92930 09/27/11 04:19 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA	Originally Posted By: Mithus You need to get used to comunism, when you going to meet God on heaven, what do you think that are you going to experimt for eternity, capitalism or comunism? again, i�m joking. If there is a flawless God then communism would work under him. The reason that communism has never and will never work on earth is that humans are flawed and greedy.

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