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Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Wolfgang #90831 07/21/11 08:26 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council
Kaotic KGB Supreme Knight King's High Council Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,716 Lafayette, LA	Originally Posted By: Wolfgang I don't care if it's legal or not, I just find it hilarious that it's part of a solution that would actually make things a lot better. Sorry but it won't. /agree If you want pot to be legal, make the case for it, but don't try to attach it to a debt solution like some under the table pork barrel project...

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Kaotic #90836 07/21/11 11:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6 Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court
Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6	Just set weed under the same set of regs that tobacco falls under. Will some ppl grow their own? Sure. Will not help Fed problem, as it would and should be a State level issue. Could also regulate and tax it like alchohol. Either way. It should be legal, because making it illegal does not seriously effect usage levels... it just costs a fuckton of tax money and public resources investigating, prosecuting and jailing offenders. Keeping it criminalized also inordinately funds organized crime, and is a corrupting factor on law enforcement. Pot use cant be stopped, it just cant. Whether it should be or not is moot and irrelevant. Keeping it criminalized is simply more hassle and expense than it is worth. For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Derid #90837 07/22/11 12:12 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,908 United States Ictinike KGB Supreme Knight
Ictinike KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,908 United States	Originally Posted By: Derid It should be legal, because making it illegal does not seriously effect usage levels... it just costs a fuckton of tax money and public resources investigating, prosecuting and jailing offenders. And there, in a nutshell, is why it will never be legal. Too may people depend on the income the "war on drugs", including weed, provides. Trickle down economics? Yep and just think of all those people who are out there daily fighting to eliminate pot from the streets, homes, etc. That's a TON of money in wages, assets, etc that if suddenly gone (specifically just for pot mind you) things start to break down. It's so large now that stopping it all together by legalizing it would have worse effects than the drug itself.

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Ictinike #90838 07/22/11 07:04 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6 Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court
Derid Chief Justice KGB Supreme Court Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,653 Likes: 6	Maybe temporarily, but since we are actually having our "drug war" financed by China - long term we would certainly be better off if we stopped spending money on it. You are right about the political difficulty regarding the situation though. Lots of people interested in keeping the gov't money flowing. There is also a large segment of industry that does not want to have to compete with hempen products. For who could be free when every other man's humour might domineer over him? - John Locke (2nd Treatise, sect 57)

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Derid #90839 07/22/11 07:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6 Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction
Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6	Glad I could light a fire under this discussion... My work is done here. On to the Conquestathon of another Nation. Don't make me have'ta Troll ya Bro!

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Tasorin #90842 07/22/11 09:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight
Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France	1/ I would fuck a good number of hotties, not some chubby. 2/ Reinstate the right to bear arms and protect yourself and your property (yeah, I live in soviet France) 3/ Legalize most drugs 4/ Shit on copyright 5/ All military job should be to protect our country not fuck around. So back home for all soldiers 6/ Institute a flat tax on all revenue. No other kind of tax. 7/ Move our power decision buildings out of Paris. 8/ Shit on all European socialistic things 9/ No subvention for anything 10/ New retirement system 11/ No obligation to use the national social security 12/ Let the police do its job 13/ Redirect 3/4 of the culture budget to the justice's 14/ Remove all the special corporation privileges It should be a good start.

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Arkh #90843 07/22/11 09:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6 Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction
Tasorin KGB (F4) Chancellor Crowfall Faction Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,070 Likes: 6	I would add Arkh... 15/ Shit all over EADS and the EU Don't make me have'ta Troll ya Bro!

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Tasorin #90844 07/22/11 09:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight
Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France	Originally Posted By: Tasorin I would add Arkh... 15/ Shit all over EADS and the EU I think it's comprised by 6/ and 9/. Yup, 69 :p.

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Arkh #90845 07/22/11 10:43 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma Wolfgang OP KGB Supreme Knight
OP Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Originally Posted By: Arkh 1/ I would fuck a good number of hotties, not some chubby. 2/ Reinstate the right to bear arms and protect yourself and your property (yeah, I live in soviet France) 3/ Legalize most drugs 4/ Shit on copyright 5/ All military job should be to protect our country not fuck around. So back home for all soldiers 6/ Institute a flat tax on all revenue. No other kind of tax. 7/ Move our power decision buildings out of Paris. 8/ Shit on all European socialistic things 9/ No subvention for anything 10/ New retirement system 11/ No obligation to use the national social security 12/ Let the police do its job 13/ Redirect 3/4 of the culture budget to the justice's 14/ Remove all the special corporation privileges It should be a good start. Arkh, If you were in America saying this someone would brand you with the Tea Party member, call you racist, sexist and about every other "ist" there is. Because we should be taxed 80% so we can give it to some lazy fuckface that can't peel their fatass of the couch long enough to do anything. Except run to the mailbox so they can get their government check. Also getting your perspective is awesome, since you live outside the U.S. it's refreshing to see that not all people have gone mad! Last edited by Wolfgang; 07/22/11 10:43 AM.

Re: You are the Prez, what do you do... WHAT DO YOU DO Kaotic #90846 07/22/11 10:50 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma Wolfgang OP KGB Supreme Knight
OP Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Originally Posted By: Kaotic Originally Posted By: Wolfgang I don't care if it's legal or not, I just find it hilarious that it's part of a solution that would actually make things a lot better. Sorry but it won't. /agree If you want pot to be legal, make the case for it, but don't try to attach it to a debt solution like some under the table pork barrel project... Funny thing Kaotic, I heard some dumbass on the radio try to say if we legalized pot and taxed it, that within a few years the debt would be wiped out from the tax revenue. I know one thing, if politicians ever thought that would be a possibilty to get that kind of massive revenue. Then pot would have been legal a LONG time ago. I have nothing against pot, I've smoked it, no big deal.

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