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Really Jet, how would you have handled it.

Bake some cookies, back rub, maybe talk about their feelings?

I think they should have used some tasers Hangover style.

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Originally Posted By: JetStar
I dont think it warranted the response. I think it could have been handled differently.


Obviously code pink was going to do it no matter what, that's what they do. They are anarchists without molitov cocktails(YET). The Cop told them in a nice manner, that if they dance they will be arrested. I'm not sure what planet you're from, but when a cop ask's you to do something and you go ahead and do it anyway. Well, let's just say your not going to be sitting down with cookies & milk talking about whoopie goldberg movies.

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but I do agree that inside a memorial is not a place to goof off or protest.

EXACTLY... and that's the bottom line, it doesn't matter what group you're part of you just don't do it.

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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
Really Jet, how would you have handled it.

Bake some cookies, back rub, maybe talk about their feelings?

I think they should have used some tasers Hangover style.


And... THAT'S A BINGO!

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Right or not, run your mouth to the cops, camera or not, and they are going to fuck with you just as much as you are fucking with them.

Don't poke the bear and then bitch the bear bitch slapped you down and then tasered you in the nuts.

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I think the primary thing that folks overlook when dealing with police officers is that these guys are out putting themselves in harm's way daily. Any resistance is met with the same amount of force because they don't know if you're making a point or if you're some nutbag who is about to whip out a gun and start shooting. I watched some more of Adam Kokesh's videos and some of the things he says I agree with, while others are a little off.


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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
Really Jet, how would you have handled it.

Bake some cookies, back rub, maybe talk about their feelings?

I think they should have used some tasers Hangover style.


Use of force when there is a non-threat to the officer should be a last resort. In this case, I think they had a few more options before they did what they did. Again, inside a memorial is not a place to protect, but I thought they were a little quick to use force. Thats all.

Personally I would have asked them to leave the premises and or closed the area for a few minutes to not make a huge scene in the memorial or in front of the cameras.


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As a Police Officer, I can tell you the problem is, you have no idea what kind of weapons people have on them. There is a use if force continuum, we go one step above what force is being used towards us, but if needed we are authorized to use whatever reasonable force is necessary.

What those officers did was reasonable, and well within their authority. When the yelling began, and the resisting began, they are lucky that's all that occurred.

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Honestly, I do not see how it was reasonable. A few $250 tickets for violating park regs would have made a fine point. After being ticketed, if they persisted then it would be justifiable to haul them in.

As it is, it was clear that the other tourists were still not bothered, until the police pushed the issue. Then not only was the exhibit closed by the police, but the taxpayers have to foot the bill for jailing and procedural costs incurred by the arrests.

The simple fact is, the cops here disturbed the peace and the other tourists more than the Pinkies. Also, the cop did not know what law/regulation the prohibited activity fell under. That is also a big no-no. It is probably also the reason he did not write a ticket, because you have to cite a violation. ( Though you would think he could have called it in )

Instead of knowing his own job, I bet he figured that as long as he could haul em in - the prosecutors office could figure out something to charge them with from their notes.


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Here is the problem Derid.

You are reasonable.

The people in the video are not.


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Originally Posted By: SpeedyKGB
As a Police Officer, I can tell you the problem is, you have no idea what kind of weapons people have on them. There is a use if force continuum, we go one step above what force is being used towards us, but if needed we are authorized to use whatever reasonable force is necessary.

This is what I was trying to say. Thanks Speedy!!

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Here is the problem Derid.

You are reasonable.

The people in the video are not.


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