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I've made some broad statements that were meant to be an indictment of what society says is wrong or right, good or bad, and that describe our nature. I am not trying to make the argument that people suck and they are all bad, or that the majority is bad. I believe quite the contrary. I think that most of us do an amazing job of overcoming the nature to be selfish and we give until it hurts. As evidenced by Helemoto's link to the page describing American charitable giving. Banshee's wife is a shining example. From the description you've given of her, you sir, are a very lucky man

My bad if I came across as a negative nancy. I get so overwhelmed sometimes, feeling like I'm the only one who cares that I make some pretty melodramatic statements when it comes to discussions like this one. Thanks Helemoto and Banshee for reminding me that there are others out there who think and act like I do.

We may in fact be wired to help people : http://www.latimes.com/sns-health-volunteering-rewards,0,5465070.story Oxytocin FTW !

cuz the mosque will be used as a headquarters for a cult that is not just interested in worship
instead they want to convert our way of life to their stoneage bullshit no thanks i personally would love to declare all out war on islam and end it before they even get the chance to see their ideals fulfilled
so like you dont care if hes not an american? last i checked that was kind of a important part of being president it made sure the president had our country at heart.
and the closet muslim thing is an issue when he claims hes not but then quotes the muslim book endlessly and appologuising to the muslim brotherhood for americas awful behavior toward them.
heh the level of acceptance of shit like this is why this country is falling to shit political correctness and the unwillingness to question authority is astounding
jfk said it i think we must always be vigilant
question your government its your right and duty



real nice sentiment jet but it is not all about worship and religion islam has a very serious political system their religion is their political system .
simple fact is worship and religion is not their goal it is their means to an end and that end is their shuria law
they will lie and say otherwise but then their bible tells them that its just fine to lie to infadels{us}
i personally like what little freedoms i have left i will fight this shit till my last breath
as well as the ignorance that treats them like any other religion CUZ THEY R NOT

separation of school and state jet?
last i heard chistian kids get in trouble for praying in school while the muslims are allowed to and they tell the other kids to take a nap during raamadan
everyone wants to bend over and be PC for the people who may kill others if we upset them.
that type of bullying needs be returned 10 fold.
if they build that building i wont be suprised to see counter terrorism on them and to be honest its about damn time someone did something cuz mr obama does nothing but shelter these fucks cuz he is one of them

Is there any actual evidence the mosque would be used to house a cult? First I have heard of that aspect.

As far as Obama being an American... havent seen any evidence that he isnt to be honest. More to the point - even if he isnt, at this point in time, arguing that point is 100% counter productive. Your odds of getting anyone else to listen to those arguments at this point is extremely slim.

All arguing the Birther does, is distract people from the important issues. Obama an co are currently laughing at everyone who is still beating the Birther horse. Why? Because if they were pointing out the flaws of his ideals and policies, rational people might take note and listen instead of tuning them out.

Arguing the Birther or closet muslim angles are meaningless because there is no possible way that anything productive will ever come of it. And I actually do not think Islam is his religion TBH, he is a career politician. Thinking any career politician in the USA has any religion that isnt going to help them get elected is a mistake IMO.


And as far as the "converting our way of life" thing goes... are you saying that is that mosque got built, you would convert to Islam? Maybe the cult will construct a mind-control device to convert the nation? If neither of the above are true, whats the problem?

I agree that political correctness is a problem, but hating on Islam is not the solution to that particular problem.

It's all a Manchurian Candidate mentality, that is a waste of time as Derid said, the real issues on the table are far more important then a conspiracy theory.

I think Obama is an American citizen and the reason they don't release his birth certificate is exactly what Derid said. If people stay focused on that, it distracts folks from the things his regime is doing.

I don't believe he is a Muslim. I don't think he is a Christian either. Not in the sense that most Americans understand it. He's spent 20 years listening to Black Liberation Theology. Look it up. That combined with "Dreams from my Father," who was a devout Marxist, and looking at the people he has surrounded himself with (mostly Marxists, Maoists, and Communists) tells me exactly who Obama is and what he wants for our country. Look up Anti-Colonialism.

Those and nothing else are the reasons that I make the case against his policies and the policy of the current leadership of our country on a daily basis. There's no need to run down the conspiracy theory road. There is no conspiracy. They aren't hiding. Read their own words and observe their actions. They want to kill the free market and capitalism and they make no bones about it. They think we owe the rest of the world something. Whether that's because they feel guilty for being prosperous or for some other misguided ideology doesn't matter to me. If they want to live under communism, go some place else. I keep hearing them say great things about Cuba and Venezuela. I'll pay for the one way tickets...

Put a jewish person in the oval office!
Trust me, the defecit will go away and fast! =P

And yes, the current Chief of Staff is Jewish muhahaha!
Although the Chief of Staff is not part of the presidential line of succession.

(Figured I'd lighten the mood lol)

Thank God cause he's more corrupt than all of the Chicago Mob rolled into one.

Not disagreeing with you on that one lol.
Although I do feel bad for those of you from Chicago, since he is trying to take the Mayor seat there!

As to Obama being eligible to be president, I hold my trust in the person that took his paper work to be put on the ballots, that must check his ID's. This person has to make sure who ever runs for president is 35 years old and a natural born citizen.