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Who is your choice for US President?
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ROFLMAO the states is fucked once again... all the above choices suck and will effectively destroy your economy more to bad... some advice get out while you still can.

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ROFLMAO the states is fucked once again... all the above choices suck and will effectively destroy your economy more to bad... some advice get out while you still can.




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Add: At least no one has from here has voted for Hilary yet.


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Other than as a protest vote, I always wonder why someone would vote for a 3rd party candidate like Perot or Nader. They never stand a chance of winning, so why bother?


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Other than as a protest vote, I always wonder why someone would vote for a 3rd party candidate like Perot or Nader. They never stand a chance of winning, so why bother?




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Once it gets to the presidential election, you just vote for whoever has the best chance of winning that best matches what you stand for. This time around I'm sort of torn between whatever democrat wins, and McCain. McCain is so hard-core conservative that I'd be weary voting for my own party. On th other hand, the Democrats are far too liberal for my tastes.

Like I said a while ago, the person who best matched my combination of beliefs was Giuliani. It's a shame that during the primaries parties just vote for the most hardcore members of their parties, rather than someone that swings far more in the direction of the other party who may actually win some of the opposite party's voters over.


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Other than as a protest vote, I always wonder why someone would vote for a 3rd party candidate like Perot or Nader. They never stand a chance of winning, so why bother?




They never stand a chance of winning...because people who would otherwise vote for that person believe they have no chance of winning. It's completely idiotic...the circular logic there is ridiculous.

Most people I've asked about Ron Paul stated that they'd vote for him if they thought he stood a chance. I've talked to over three dozen people about this...think about it. If all those people who stated they wouldn't vote for RP simply because he didn't stand a chance, actually DID vote him, HE WOULD have a chance.

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Cant expect the people to actually vote on principle, that would be "un-american" you have to vote for who you think will win of course, and you find out who that is from CNN and Faux news.

BTW, Perot could have won if he hadnt dropped out the first time.

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I don't know yet. I haven't been paying too close of attention to policies yet..

I don't think I would mind voting McCain, but after the last eight years, I'd really hate to vote Republican.

I understand that Obama lacks experience, and I hear he's super-liberal... but I'd be willing to overlook that. I also understand that you shouldn't put too much stock in 'personality' and shit, but... I think he's the real deal. Or, atleast more real than anyone else in the game.

I don't like Hillary. I liked Bill, but I don't like Hillary. She comes across as pro-censorship (video games, for example), and that really pisses me off. She's a friend of the family values interest groups, who I think are wrong. (But, for all I know, Obama could feel the same way, or even moreso.)

Right now, I'd vote Obama over McCain and McCain over Clinton. My wish is for Obama to win the Democrat ticket, and then I can be an undecided, and hear out both sides' policies.

As far as third-parties... I'm a hardcore moderate. I think being too strong either side is borderline ignorance. I may lean liberal, but I think I would also have many conservative beliefs. (Basicly, I think I'd be better off a Republican, but their coddling up the religious right disgusts me to no end.)

I've love to vote third-party, but I won't until somebody who stands a chance comes along. But I think you get the wrong idea here. Third-party candidates are unvoteable because they're third-party. They're unvoteable because they're just awful candidates that simply don't stand a chance.

I'd love to see a real, worthwhile, third-party candidate to take the White House. A real baseline moderate who would feel the same way that I bet a good majority in the country feel. I think that would be the best thing for this country.

I think the second best thing for our country would be for Obama to win, and to deliver on his promises of change and hope. I feel the chances of him succeeding at that would be greater than the chances of a moderate President would bring our country together... but it's still a chance.

Hillary would divide us more and is too drastic a change, and McCain might be too much of the same old song.


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There wont be a real third party bid this time around, barring another billionare like Perot deciding to throw in his hat.

Oddly enough I more or less agree with you.. Obama is the best choice out of a bunch of really bad choices. He at least is *new*. McCains an old man, whos lost it.. Hillary completely represents the status quo.

McCain and his "eternal war " just doesnt fly with me, we honestly cannot *afford* financially to continue on this road, it is literally bankrupting us, and destorying our currency.

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