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Heidi #21170 06/11/07 12:25 AM
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I'm not tryin to add to the flames. I know far more then what those logs show is going on in the background. I just gave an honest oppinion of what the basic appearance one might derive from reading the logs.


Jacon Clay 3xGM mage voted as "The Worst Red Ever" "I'm okay at PvP... But what I lack in skill, I make up for in Luck" "I love Wisps!" ~ the day 4 wisps killed 3 SL blues chasing my red. The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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Whats done is done its important to remember that taking responsibility for ones actions should be first and formost in conflicts.




QFT. I always thought that was part of being a "Knight." Nobility stems from taking responsibility for ones actions, and both admitting when you've fucked up AND admitting when you tried to cover it up by sweeping it under the rug. I realize that this isn't really a part of today's society as much as it used to be, but I wish it would make a return. That's why I think some individuals missed the point about the entire situation; why these threads popped up in the first place, and looking at the big picture here. A leader can only excuse loss of integrity for so long before a line must be drawn. If people hate me for saying that, then so be it.


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Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:34 PM): but hey, I am an "ASS"




I might be wrong, but I think maybe Gyran was agreeing with you.

I honestly think that Winters log, made you out to look better then your full log did Jet...

I know there's some bad blood tween yall now, but from this log, I'm gonna agree with em on the ASS part. =/




Well, if calling someone on a bullshit story after getting fucked over when trying to help them is being an "ASS", than I totally am one!
Jason, I wanted to make sure that the entire log was out there as I have nothing to hide. I was VERY upset when I was in that chat, and some of my comments reflect that.

Just so you know this is my last post in this thread and on this subject. I wont lock the thread, and I havent banned anyone because I wont limit peoples opinion and I stand behind my actions 100%.


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When you say you know more jason, do you mean from one side or both sides. because if your hearing it just from one side then i would step back and take a bigger look.

Winter and Jetstar are good friend's to alot of you.. Out of respect for both dont step in the middle and let it go. It is over and people move on, there is no need to nit pick or keep stuff going.

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Well truthfully im not taking either side what done is done but dont tell someone u did something and u didnt do it just tell the truth and the situation wouldnt have went this far.


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Heidi #21175 06/11/07 11:49 AM
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my suggestion, don't add to the flames unless you know the whole story. Everyone likes to jump on points and base whole views on scraps of information.
Whats done is done its important to remember that taking responsibility for ones actions should be first and formost in conflicts.




Rule #1 of economics: Don't ever base decisions on sunk costs.

Althought, I don't typically agree when the "costs" are intangible. *sigh*..this whole thing sucks.


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Jet: Jason, I wanted to make sure that the entire log was out there as I have nothing to hide. I was VERY upset when I was in that chat, and some of my comments reflect that.




Look, I'm not condeming Jet. He was very upset (which is easy to see that in the log) and said some things that make him look like an ass. Anger makes everyone ugly, it's a simple fact.

Is he an ass all-in-all? No, frankly I doubt anyone could say he is. His actions have shown that he's more then willing to go out of his way to help people, and that is something asshats don't do.

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Ripiv Vipir: When you say you know more jason, do you mean from one side or both sides. because if your hearing it just from one side then i would step back and take a bigger look.




Well, I try to base most of my choices on logic. I wouldn't have made any comments reguarding this subject had I not gotten some info from both sides.

Alot of you may think I just jumped in throwing around alot of words with half-assed information. I got alot more information on what happened with this situation from Jet then I did Winter.

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Jet: I wont lock the thread, and I havent banned anyone because I wont limit peoples opinion and I stand behind my actions 100%.




See this? This is totaly honorable and shows Jet is a man of conviction. I totaly respect him for that.

I don't want anyone (especialy Jet) to think that I think any less of him from what he did and how he did it.

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Okay, deep breath folks !

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See if we can resolve this without resorting to using
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Please let this thread die?

AKA don't even reply to this post saying how much you agree!


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Heidi #21179 06/12/07 03:15 PM
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I have too say though if Parn can get back in after what he did too KGB... then Winter should be back in a few years. Lov ya Wints. but ya brought it upon urself and you know it


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