The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (PUBLIC) The Pub OMG.... a real Conservative from the GOP 4 prez!

I forget what the temp of burning jet fuel is, but it's a good bit more then what's required for heated steal to lose 50% of it's strength.

I think Bush is evil...
I think the media is evil..
Hum...Hilary Clinton is probably evil..Although it would be fun to see what a madam president can do not because shes a woman but because shes a woman. (<--not sarcasm, merely pulled it out of its sterotypical shell.)
I think Dick Chaney is evil...
I think the entire Bush Administration is not evil...but some of them are...
9/11 was probably something conjured not with the Bush Administration but with people intrested in using the Bush Administration as a scapegoat.
I don't think we went into Iraq for oil, because gas prices are still 3.4, atleast here anyway.
I think that with all thats been going on in the last couple of years out of all of the candidates for president atleast one of them has set principles uncorrupted by the media, washington, etc etc. I would hope theres alteast one preson within those candidates that wants to change how things have been going for America for the better. Whatever better they decide is most relative to them still a better.
Because even if we say that this side did this and this side did that or what they didn't do. It hasn't been a great couple of years.
I think we should pull out of the Middle East and whereever else soldiers are waiting to come home.
I think we should focus on America here first because its not all that great for us to have the levergity to go out and try to help other countries when we ourselves are deterierating. And we are. Slowly ever so slowly.
I think that many of the things that happen in washington and most of the things said by Bush are things used to create theater for America. Its a failsafe. Bush is probably a smart man otherwise he wouldn't have pretended so vigorously to laugh at Steven Colbert's comments about him at that party thingy they had a few years ago and then a few days later give another one of his famous speeches.

I like politics but I don't care too much about my opnions about them because they are just relative to where I live and what I see etc etc. So I don't think they can provide and analysis of integerity for the way America works today, because they are just way to injustifiable. Circumstances are different for everyone. I think we need a president that is willing to hear the people and take all that and make an average of assumptions and from there make his decisions, but thats what weve always needed , right? Shrug, saw the politics discussion couldnt resist. lol

Bush is evil? Cheney is evil? Based on what?

If you like playing video games of Teen rating up to Mature or better, Don't vote for Hilary Clinton. She's the Anti-Gamer from hell. Voting for her is voting to stop one of your favorite hobbies.

Ive presented tons of evidence over the years on why B n C are evil, or at least spread and commit great evil. Some people will never believe it simply because they dont want to believe it however. But there is nothing good about statism, no good has ever come from it in any society, nor has any good ever come from surveillance societies. That much is plain and clear, and just because Bush and Chen might not think of themselves as evil is irrelevant. Evil is as Evil does, not as Evil says, basically.

As far as the 9/11 stuff goes, I think there is a "relativly decent chance" that there was... a LOT going on regarding that, that isnt yet accepted in popular culture.

That doesnt necesarrily mean I buy into one particular theory 100%, but regardless of who,why, and who knew- I am almost 100% certain that there is alot more to it than accepted.

Or in other words, there is enough evidence out there to state with almost total certainty that the whole story wasnt told, and that many things were misreported- but not enough to lay blame on any particular party or buy into one particular "conspiracy theory".

BTW Zone - Hillary eats from the exact same trough as Bush does, basically all the evil bastages of our society (Axciom, Seisint, etc) give plenty of money and favors to both. The only real difference between them, is Hillary adds more socialism to the statist mentality but is currently vocally supporting different foreign policy objectives. If anything Hillary is even scarier than GWBush.


Julio said: "Frankly anyone who blames 9-11 on the U.S. is a cook and should outright be brought up on charges of treason"

- Now thats just damn scary Julio. Seriously.

Imprisoning and harassing those who take positions against the state sanctioned view of thinking is something the Nazis and Communists are infamous world-over for. It saddens me that so many US citizens are now looking to them as role models.

Next thing you know the same media owners who have agendas like Murdoch will start forcing entertainers who speak ut against the war rationale off the air and sponsor smear campaings, and the government will start infiltrating and monitoring normal US political groups, and we will be forced into "free speech zones" during political events to make things more rosy looking for those in power.

Oops, my bad.... that was 5 years ago now.

If anyone is serriously considering Hillary as a viable option for president, I suggest you do a search on a Florida attourney named Jack Thompson, Hillary is backing his 'holy war'. He is dead set in his mind that ALL video games are evil and train those who use them to become merciless killers. I'm all for a female president, I just don't want anything to do with any caddidate male or female that wants to target my video games.

Also, while yes we should focus more on American problems, the UN should have done what we did in Iraq years ago. It's sad that the US is the only country that stood up and actualy had the balls to say 'enough is enough, this villian has to be brought to justice.' We should support our troops and be proud that they are there fighting for what we beleive in. They are there, because they are in the millitary. It's a life they chose to go into. I think it's horrible how civilian people want to do the same thing now they did in Vietnam and not support our troops. Every time someone says we need to leave Iraq, we're insulting our millitary personal who are risking their lives to try and bring some stability to a land that's been chaotic far too long. Not to mention if we were to just up and leave now, the new Iraq government would prolly collapse with out our help and the neighboring countries would carve it up for themselves.